Where are those pictures of the 993 and 996 going down the same production lines?

 

The jap tranny is not necessarily good or bad; better or worse. What will be interesting is to see how these units do with regard to reliability, durabilty and costs to replace (doubt many will be repaired). It then becomes fair to compare that info with the g-50's track record. Hypothetically, the new unit might be very reliable but less durable, requiring replacement at, let's say 125,000 miles. For $4,000 and a two year warranty, and could be a considered a reasonable proposition.

Much of the value in our 993's is due to the drivetrain; Is it not fair to speculate how a 997 drivetrain will perform in ten years?

Jack

 

I guess I bought into the marketing crap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqdNq...elated&search=

but porsche obviously thought craftsmanship was a selling feature.

 

Toby: These are good discussions and fair discussions, don't apologize!!

Jack

 

Very interesting thread. Raises all kinds of issues. IMHO current Japanese manufacture (since late '60s) is excellent. Kids Honda Ballade which 4 of them had as 1st car ran on unopened 'til 450 thousand kms! Used zero oil -ever!
My Leitz/ Leica binoculars are made in Portugal. Design and concept are the main factors. buying/outsourcing components with good QC renders things pretty equal. I would love to go along with the "made in the woods by German elves" concept but the cost would be prohibitive. tt

 

Guys, I made mistake in my earlier post (it's been edited), 996 transmissions are not made in Japan as I was misinformed, it's made by Getrag, same company that made 993 & 964 transmission.

 

You mean Gretchen didn't saw my Cab top by hand????

I can assure you that Hans, a well known midget at the factory was the one that installed many components in the 993.

 

Right on...Porsche turned into "mass" production...where else you go with such intention??? I feel the urge to buy another 356...

 

Hey, my C2S has Potenza's on it and Bridgestone was founded in Japan...............Sorry, just had to post this.

 

"Look at Ferrari - you wont find a case study on them in MBA school - but theyve stayed true to form - racing - and theyve got tons of brand equity."

"Damn straight" as one might say.

And yes, Toby, great topic. I always enjoy feeling like I am driving the Rolex (Submariner) of automobiles. Maybe not a Patek Phillipe but incredible design, supremely sturdy build, built by craftsmen of the highest order. I can play rough and it will not dematerialize.

Oh . . . your pollen filters are made in France, your fuel filter made in Israel (interesting) and your SAI check valves are from Japan. So . . . we are a cosmopolitan blend regardless. And that is actually probably a good thing.

Now just don't tell me Rolex (founded by Germans too BTW) use anything but Swiss gears and components or . . . it's on!

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It all depends on one's definition of "Better", if the car is actually welded together better by robots than the hand welds of my 993, is it really better? or just constructed in a different manner?

For me, if it's lost the Porsche 911 soul, it's not better, it's just new

ZP44

 

They stopped "hand making" Porsche with the 356. Porsche is just evolving, just as it always has.

 

Aisin or Getrag. The tranny in my 06 997S has performed absolutely flawlessly for me since day one. I'm fairly easy on trannies so I'm expecting 100,000 on the first clutch. Getrag. A little history for you Getrag fans. Guess what else they used to make?

Ever heard of the Hindenburg?

First time I've had a German car with a Japanese transmission. So far so good.

 

No and No.

 

The AC compressor on my 96 993 is made by Denso(Japan).This is the only
Japanese mechanical part that I found on my car. Not sure about wheel bearings ...