Bad news! My friend spun his 96 C2 into a concrete wall
08-14-2006, 10:28 PM
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Bad news! My friend spun his 96 C2 into a concrete wall
Bad news! My good friend spun his 96 C2 into a concrete wall.
Good news, he is ok but a little sore.
maybe you guys can help determine what could have happened to cause this terrible spin out.
he was traveling at about 50 mph on a sweeping cloverleaf from one freeway to another, no other cars involved, the curve was gradual and to the left.
about 3/4 of the way through the curve he said he heard a loud noise and the car spun instantly to the right and the left front smashed up against the concrete wall, then the left rear came around and hit the wall too, facing oncoming traffic. the road was dry and there were no objects or gravel.
i looked the car over and the suspension was torn away from the left rear wheel and the wheel is facing upwards with the brakes and hub still bolted to the wheel.
could this have been a cv joint breaking apart or possibly an axle broke?
the right rear tire was torn half way off of the wheel to the inside.
could a blow out of the right rear tire make it swerve radically to the right while in a left turn?
the airbags went off. i think the insurance company will probably call it a total.
too bad, it was a super nice, clean 96, white with tan, 6 speed with only 49,000 miles.
what could have caused it to be in a sweeping left and then radically spin to the right?
this guy is a very conservative driver so i know he was not doing anything crazy.
it will be interesting to hear what you guys think may have happened.
thanks!
jeff
Good news, he is ok but a little sore.
maybe you guys can help determine what could have happened to cause this terrible spin out.
he was traveling at about 50 mph on a sweeping cloverleaf from one freeway to another, no other cars involved, the curve was gradual and to the left.
about 3/4 of the way through the curve he said he heard a loud noise and the car spun instantly to the right and the left front smashed up against the concrete wall, then the left rear came around and hit the wall too, facing oncoming traffic. the road was dry and there were no objects or gravel.
i looked the car over and the suspension was torn away from the left rear wheel and the wheel is facing upwards with the brakes and hub still bolted to the wheel.
could this have been a cv joint breaking apart or possibly an axle broke?
the right rear tire was torn half way off of the wheel to the inside.
could a blow out of the right rear tire make it swerve radically to the right while in a left turn?
the airbags went off. i think the insurance company will probably call it a total.
too bad, it was a super nice, clean 96, white with tan, 6 speed with only 49,000 miles.
what could have caused it to be in a sweeping left and then radically spin to the right?
this guy is a very conservative driver so i know he was not doing anything crazy.
it will be interesting to hear what you guys think may have happened.
thanks!
jeff
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08-14-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by texas911
And you guys laugh at the electronic goodies on the newer Porsches. Porsche put them in their cars just for reasons like this.
Unless there's a section in your 997 manual that talks about how the spiffy electronics handles it when a wheel falls off... no?
08-14-2006, 11:54 PM
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See, the more powerful white ones aren't always more desireable!!
In all seriousness, I'm glad to hear your friend is o.k. - sounds like bad timing for something to let go...
In all seriousness, I'm glad to hear your friend is o.k. - sounds like bad timing for something to let go...
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08-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by texas911
And you guys laugh at the electronic goodies on the newer Porsches. Porsche put them in their cars just for reasons like this.
08-15-2006, 12:38 AM
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I broke an axle two months ago... totally unsure why the wheel didn't fall off. Only thing holding it on was the brake caliper and whatever help the bearing could provide. The nut holding the axle to the wheel was totally gone, and the break occurred about halfway along the shaft spline. Pretty scary to look at, not sure how I got so lucky to make it home.
08-15-2006, 12:45 AM
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Wow.
Glad your friend is ok. My first thought was the Cv joint bolts backed out and the Cv dropped down. Thank God he wasn't doing a DE. I'd have a serious inspection done to determine the real cause. He needs to know to regain some level of confidence in the car.
08-15-2006, 12:48 AM
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UGH! Glad to hear that your friend was ok, Jeff! As you know, cars can be fixed, but humans... My best toward a full and speedy recovery!
As for the car, a CV or axle doesn't hold up the corner; they only drive the hub. Given that the wheel was facing upward with rotor/hub still bolted I'd guess that the lower link failed in the most catostrophic way imaginable. I'm going off the the garage now to take a look, just because I just can't imagine that beefy rear suspension giving way so suddenly.
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As for the car, a CV or axle doesn't hold up the corner; they only drive the hub. Given that the wheel was facing upward with rotor/hub still bolted I'd guess that the lower link failed in the most catostrophic way imaginable. I'm going off the the garage now to take a look, just because I just can't imagine that beefy rear suspension giving way so suddenly.
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08-15-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gordo993
See, the more powerful white ones aren't always more desireable!!.
08-15-2006, 01:18 AM
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This accident smells alot like the accident a few months ago where the rear control arm snapped from rubbing a suspension component and caused the tire to put the car in a wall.....
08-15-2006, 02:03 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure how electronic PSM or such could save a driver from a mechanicla failure, if that's what it was.
I just bought a spare halfshaft with CV joints in case it breaks at the track.
I just bought a spare halfshaft with CV joints in case it breaks at the track.