How many of you guys would switch to a 997 if you could easily afford it?
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Originally Posted by Marv
Critics can rage or rave about the artist’s technique and style, but you still have to get an emotional bond with the painting to really appreciate it. The 997 is great combination of canvas and execution of the artist’s ability. Still, the painting just doesn’t look as good hanging on my wall as what I have now. Perhaps my tastes will change over time, but I am not in a hurry to see that happen.
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Originally Posted by pcar964
give that 930 a decent alignment, and wheels/tires comparable to those on a 996/997 (can't compare narrow little 16s with the steamroller 18s on modern cars), and the 930 would be just as quick. Now, like I mentioned before, throw a K27 and 1 bar spring on a euro 930, and kiss that 996 goodbye. I think it's only fair that the 930 be allowed those very modest modifications, considering it's 26 years old
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Originally Posted by Marv
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The only two items that remain from the earliest 911 is the location of the tach and the location of the ignition key. Apart from that, the car is pretty far removed. Even the 993 is pretty far removed in many ways, but it is at the limit of my tolerance.
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The only two items that remain from the earliest 911 is the location of the tach and the location of the ignition key. Apart from that, the car is pretty far removed. Even the 993 is pretty far removed in many ways, but it is at the limit of my tolerance.
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Can I comment? The 993 is a great great 911, its got character and history. There is no doubt, but when people start to justify the 993 over the 997 in terms of performance, then that's going a bit far. Just as the 356 fans love their cars, they cannot say that it out performs the 993. The 997 is a scalpel compared to the 993, yea yea, change this and modify that and maybe it will be in the same class as the 997, but out of the box, the 997 is a top performer. And as far as the anti techno crowd, look at what Porsche has to compete with TODAY, and you'll see why it has those techno gadgets. Look at the 997's chief competitor the F430 its got even more techno than the 997!
Just think if Porsche didn't change the 911 would a 993 based car compete in today's world? I doubt it.
Just think if Porsche didn't change the 911 would a 993 based car compete in today's world? I doubt it.
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Joe, you're da man!!! This car is gorgeous. I'll be giving them a call over the weekend.
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Originally Posted by texas911
Can I comment? The 993 is a great great 911, its got character and history. There is no doubt, but when people start to justify the 993 over the 997 in terms of performance, then that's going a bit far. Just as the 356 fans love their cars, they cannot say that it out performs the 993. The 997 is a scalpel compared to the 993, yea yea, change this and modify that and maybe it will be in the same class as the 997, but out of the box, the 997 is a top performer. And as far as the anti techno crowd, look at what Porsche has to compete with TODAY, and you'll see why it has those techno gadgets. Look at the 997's chief competitor the F430 its got even more techno than the 997!
Just think if Porsche didn't change the 911 would a 993 based car compete in today's world? I doubt it.
Just think if Porsche didn't change the 911 would a 993 based car compete in today's world? I doubt it.
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Give me a white 997 GT3 please.
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Originally Posted by LJ in Van
Joe, you're da man!!! This car is gorgeous. I'll be giving them a call over the weekend.
There are also a couple other really nice black ones around, low miles etc., but didn't have the sport seats and the CF. This one looks perfect though.
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Originally Posted by Deanriffs
I could learn to love one of these...but still would miss elements of my 993, namely smell, sound, simplicity & size. Call them "the four Ss".
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You guys are kidding yourselves thinking that the 993 is a 911. Excuse me! While it has the great looks so much was done to refine the 993 that the real soul of the 911 was lost. I love the looks of the 993s but in time they will become maintenance nightmares like the older 911s have. Ultimately we all have to 'upgrade' before the car is impossible to keep up,--thinking especially of the electrical system. I bypassed the 964s and the 993s and especially the 996s which were seriously desexed by Porsche for some strange reason (design by committee?).
So what did I do? I ordered a seriously overloaded 997S Cab, but in a 993 color! What a great car!
So what did I do? I ordered a seriously overloaded 997S Cab, but in a 993 color! What a great car!
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
You guys are kidding yourselves thinking that the 993 is a 911. Excuse me! While it has the great looks so much was done to refine the 993 that the real soul of the 911 was lost. !
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
You guys are kidding yourselves thinking that the 993 is a 911. Excuse me! While it has the great looks so much was done to refine the 993 that the real soul of the 911 was lost. I love the looks of the 993s but in time they will become maintenance nightmares like the older 911s have. Ultimately we all have to 'upgrade' before the car is impossible to keep up,--thinking especially of the electrical system. I bypassed the 964s and the 993s and especially the 996s which were seriously desexed by Porsche for some strange reason (design by committee?).
So what did I do? I ordered a seriously overloaded 997S Cab, but in a 993 color! What a great car!
So what did I do? I ordered a seriously overloaded 997S Cab, but in a 993 color! What a great car!
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This thing is nuts! Did you notice the red stitching on the sports seats? It's just the right car in so many ways...the only problem is the price tag...$83k is a number I'd have to think about. I really wanted to be closer to high 60s or low 70s. I'd be willing to pay a premium for this but I just don't know if I can get myself to $80.
Originally Posted by Joe S.
There are also a couple other really nice black ones around, low miles etc., but didn't have the sport seats and the CF. This one looks perfect though.