Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

Need help getting daughter a car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 5, 2006 | 09:43 AM
  #16  
993c2cab's Avatar
993c2cab
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,612
Likes: 11
From: brighton Michigan
Default

Just leased my daughter a 06 jetta 229 a month 1000 down 12k ayear for two years. she loves it. So Far so good. Only prob is the gas door is broken, Not sure if someone tried prying in to steal gas or not.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 10:09 AM
  #17  
Monique's Avatar
Monique
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,266
Likes: 3
From: Europe
Default

For the best reliability... go Lexus or Toyota.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 01:06 PM
  #18  
rcwelch's Avatar
rcwelch
Thread Starter
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,414
Likes: 1
From: Redmond,Washington
Default

Thanks everyone for your input...I have my work cut out for me. I am sticking with something from Japan or Germany. She is helping with the purchase, just looks to dad for help in making the right decesion. If she could, she wants the 993...lol.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 01:34 PM
  #19  
robroy72's Avatar
robroy72
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 779
Likes: 12
From: Sugar Land, TX
Default

I would suggest that you look at the Subaru Impreza - the WRX is a blast, but probably a bit much power for a first car, so the 2.5RS would be a safe enough bet. Bullet proof reliability, AWD, decent on gas and very safe when it comes to bumps and scrapes.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 01:47 PM
  #20  
95 C4 993's Avatar
95 C4 993
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,033
Likes: 3
From: Sandy, UT/Fish Haven, ID
Default

Honda, Subaru, VW-all good options. I'm a fan of AWD or 4WD, probably because I live in place that snows and weather can change in a heart beat.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 02:12 PM
  #21  
CP's Avatar
CP
Race Director
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,122
Likes: 337
From: Los Altos, CA
Default

Randy,

I just noticed that you are in Redmond WA. Given your damp weather, I'd suggest a look at the Subaru WRX Sports Wagon. AWD, lots'a room, ralley-bred durability, many safety features, fun to drive, great gas mileage. I have often said that for myself, if I can have one car and one car only, I'd own the WRX sports wagon.

The used ones are REALLY cheap.

CP
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 02:22 PM
  #22  
brucec59's Avatar
brucec59
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,796
Likes: 5
From: San Francisco
Default

Get thee to a library and look at the April issue of Consumer Reports. For reliability, VW is way down there with -gulp- Detroit! Anecdotal evidence asside, unless you want your little girl stranded God knows where, go with something more reliable, like a Honda or Toyota.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 02:27 PM
  #23  
TheOtherEric's Avatar
TheOtherEric
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,230
Likes: 104
From: Chicago
Default

If I were helping my daughter choose a car, reliability would be #1 in my mind, so we wouldn't always be worried about her car breaking down on her. Because of that, I'd avoid VW, which gets horrible reliability ratings in general (anecdotal evidence like comments above notwithstanding). Even worse than american cars. An awd Suby is a great idea.

EDIT: lol, bruce just beat me to it. And more succinctly too.
Reply
Rennlist Stories

The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts

story-0

9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 5, 2006 | 03:12 PM
  #24  
Ty Smith's Avatar
Ty Smith
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default

My vote would be a Toyota Camery / Lexus 300es I bought mine for next to nothing and have 150k miles. decent gas mileage & safe.

Drive it everyday. dings or dirt no problem..
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 03:37 PM
  #25  
ceboyd's Avatar
ceboyd
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,495
Likes: 0
From: Mount Prospect, IL
Default

Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
If I were helping my daughter choose a car, reliability would be #1 in my mind, so we wouldn't always be worried about her car breaking down on her. Because of that, I'd avoid VW, which gets horrible reliability ratings in general (anecdotal evidence like comments above notwithstanding). Even worse than american cars. An awd Suby is a great idea.

EDIT: lol, bruce just beat me to it. And more succinctly too.
Eric, you don't know what your talking about! I've never 'broken down' in any VW I've ever owned and neither have my parent's.. the only bad thing was my dad's former 69 BUS that rusted out from under him and the axles rusted so badly that one wheel went one way and the other the other way...


People who tend to have gobs of problems with VWs tend to be the 20something kiddies who mod them and put turbos that are too big on them among other stupid things (like wheels that are too heavy, too big, or with HUGE fat spacers) that those cars just can't handle without countless issues!



It bugs the snot out of me when people badmouth VW without concrete proof of anything more than internet jabber or other goofy rumors.

There was a 2000 VR6 Jetta that was known for issues (1st year of that VR6) so avoid a 2000 VR6 Jetta. And there was a coil pack recall on the 1.8t (covered under warranty) and then a recall on a window switch breaking on my former 2001 New Beetle.

Granted I only have 15k miles on my R32 but I've done nothing but oil changes so far regarding maintenance!
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 03:57 PM
  #26  
TheOtherEric's Avatar
TheOtherEric
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,230
Likes: 104
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by ceboyd
Eric, you don't know what your talking about! I've never 'broken down' in any VW I've ever owned and neither have my parent's.. the only bad thing was my dad's former 69 BUS that rusted out from under him and the axles rusted so badly that one wheel went one way and the other the other way...

People who tend to have gobs of problems with VWs tend to be the 20something kiddies who mod them and put turbos that are too big on them among other stupid things (like wheels that are too heavy, too big, or with HUGE fat spacers) that those cars just can't handle without countless issues!

It bugs the snot out of me when people badmouth VW without concrete proof of anything more than internet jabber or other goofy rumors...
...
Geesh, no reason to get hostile ceboyd. How am I badmouthing VW? All I said was "I'd avoid VW, which gets horrible reliability ratings in general." If you wanna dispute that, then you should educate yourself beyond your mere anecdotes and review the ratings. As a starting point, go read Consumer Reports like Bruce & I suggest. Then come back and tell me how VW gets good reliability ratings. Gosh, I don't think that what I wrote was controversial. It's not even opinion- it's just fact!

Last edited by TheOtherEric; May 5, 2006 at 04:16 PM.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 04:26 PM
  #27  
TheOtherEric's Avatar
TheOtherEric
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,230
Likes: 104
From: Chicago
Default

And if you don't like Consumer Reports, then here are some JD Powers studies that will tell you the same thing:

2004: http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2004055

2005: http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005089
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 04:47 PM
  #28  
sojglenn's Avatar
sojglenn
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
Default

I've owned two Audi's and one VW, and they were all great cars, but reliability isn't a description that leaps to mind. But i have known people who have owned them with very few problems. In my experience i think there is a wide difference in reliability/durability across owners, and it seems like some people just get "good ones" and some don't. More so that other makes. Just my $0.02.

-Steve
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 11:19 PM
  #29  
rcwelch's Avatar
rcwelch
Thread Starter
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,414
Likes: 1
From: Redmond,Washington
Default

Thanks again for all the information...she gets home on next Wednesday and then it is off to start the search. I will get the Consumer Reports and take a look. Chris, she does like the Jetta so we will look, and Honda and Subaru. There are some good choices out there. I'll let you know how the hunt goes.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 01:17 AM
  #30  
c993k's Avatar
c993k
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,450
Likes: 2
From: South Florida
Default

Doesn't anyone like the Prius? Chris
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:28 PM.

story-0
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

Slideshow: Long before engineering consulting became trendy, Porsche was quietly helping other automakers build everything from supercars to economy hatchbacks.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-15 12:44:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

Slideshow: Some brands build cars. Porsche builds traditions, obsessions, and a few habits that stopped making sense decades ago but somehow became part of the charm.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-13 18:46:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

Slideshow: Six years and 500 Rennlist articles later, these are the biggest changes at Porsche.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-11 09:52:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

Slideshow: Some Porsches exist for very specific reasons-others feel like they were built just to see if anyone would notice.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 18:00:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

Slideshow: Choosing between the 911 GT3 S/C and 718 Spyder RS in 10 key categories to determine one surprising winner.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 12:51:46


VIEW MORE
story-5
This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

Slideshow: A small Polish tuner has reimagined the Porsche 911 Slantnose for the modern era, blending 1980s nostalgia with widebody tuning culture and serious performance upgrades.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-01 10:49:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

Slideshow: Porsche has created a Japan-only 911 GT3 Artisan Edition that blends track-ready hardware with design cues inspired by traditional Japanese craftsmanship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:37:40


VIEW MORE
story-7
Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

Slideshow: Porsche's latest electric Cayenne Coupe blends dramatic styling with supercar acceleration, turning the brand's midsize SUV into a 1,139-horsepower flagship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:39:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

Slideshow: Porsche's wildest paint colors aren't just shades-they're full-blown personalities on four wheels.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:38:13


VIEW MORE
story-9
Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

Slideshow: The last of the Speedsters doesn't just close a chapter, it makes quite the bold, air-cooled statement.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:55:04


VIEW MORE