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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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I am considering getting a DAS Sport roll-bar for my cab, but have heard that they can impeed the seat travel towards the rear?? I'm about 6'4" - 6'5" and need all the room I can get. I have heard this may be more of an issue with the OEM sport seats . . . more so the 996 sport seats than the 993 sport seats . . . but I still have the OEM comfort seats. Does anyone have any experience with this . . . or does anyone in the So Cal area possibly have a moment where I could take a sit in their car with this set-up? If so, there's a cool brew on me.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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I can't answer your question, but if it is indeed a problem you might consider a Heigo rollbar (www.heigo.de). They don't impede seat travel at all. But unfortunately, last I heard they can't be made with cross bars for harnesses (unless they changed the design). If you don't need harnesses I'd definitely go Heigo. Just a thought.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Here is a pic of a DAS roll bar in a cab. It's not my car. I took the pic during a BAR drive becuase I was considering a DAS bar for my cab. It belong to one of the Rennlister here, I believe.

Looks like it stops the seat at around the b pillar.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Be Carefull, i have an aftermarket roll bar from Autohaus and the way it was bolted in limits my seat travel on both driver and passenger side, for me it is okay as i am only 5' 7". However taller folks look like a pretzel in my car.....be carefull
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Eric -

Thanks for the info on Heigo as an option. Is the cross bar only there for the use of a harness . . . or does it significantly ad to the strength of the bar? I have heard that that DAS Sport is the tops as far as safety goes. Does going with the Heigo rather than DAS limit you to what DE's, autoX or track events you can attend?


Paul -

Great pic. Thanks a lot. What is the "b pillar"?


Dennis -

Wow . . . sounds like it'd be a tight squeeze in these cars with the Autohaus bar and my height. I will definitely be careful before spending some money on this. Thanks.


Does anyone have a car somewhere nearby me that I can check out?

Scott
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott 1996 993c2
Paul -

Great pic. Thanks a lot. What is the "b pillar"?
Scott:

Here's a pic that'd explain the a, b, c, d pillars:



I keep forgeting the the cab doesn't really have a b pillar. But the DAS roll bar would be along where the b pillar would be in the couple.

The people at DAS are super helpful and friendly. You should give them a call and ask them directly.

I ended up buying a Techquipment (OE) rollbar for my 996 cab because at the time DAS doesn't have a roll bar for the 996 Cab yet. Having seen both roll bars, I think the DAS rollbar is actually stronger and more robust. Tony at TC Design who installed my rollbar also made similar comments.

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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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Here's another picture that shows a little bit more of the seat next too the roll bar.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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Joe:

What kind of seats are those in the pic? I like them a lot.
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Paul, I'm not sure what seats they are. But they do look really cool. I'll try to search for the original thread with the pictures and find out.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:55 AM
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Paul, Joe --

Thanks for your input . . . and the pics. I will likely give DAS a call about this . . . doesn't appear as though anyone around So Cal that has this set-up has seen this thread . . . or at least has not chimed in yet. Maybe I gotta offer more than just a cold brew . . . do I hear 2? Maybe a whole 6-pack?

Scott
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott 1996 993c2
Eric -

Thanks for the info on Heigo as an option. Is the cross bar only there for the use of a harness . . . or does it significantly ad to the strength of the bar? I have heard that that DAS Sport is the tops as far as safety goes. Does going with the Heigo rather than DAS limit you to what DE's, autoX or track events you can attend?...
Scott, the purpose of the cross bar is for mounting harnesses, but it probably does give some amount of lateral stiffening. DAS is definitely a sturdier heavier bar, but I don't know how it mounts. The Heigo is nice in that it also bolts into the upper seat belt mounting point. Around here, the Heigo was plenty enough to meet any clubs' DE/autox rollbar requirement. I don't know if there are more strict rules in Cali, so you'd want to check. Heigo isn't PCA race legal, but I would doubt you'd have to follow those rules for a DE. You'd have to ask. Also, the Heigo doesn't require drilling holes in the floor, which I liked.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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I've got the DAS in my 993 cab. It does limit the seat travel some. I'm 6' 1" and can manage fine though. I end up leading the back of the seat forward a little more than without it to get the leg room I need. Works okay for me.

If you want to bring these beers to Chicago, you can see for yourself. :-)
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Those seats are cobra misanos. Funny, I have the same pics in my library. Here is a back of seat view.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Scott:
Don't give up on a "local" Rennlister having what you are looking for. Last year, there was a Rennlister in SoCal (greater LA) area with a blue cab and the DAS rollbar installed. I traded some emails with him about the install, since I am also looking at a rollbar install in the moderately near future. I believe his avatr showed his car parked in front of a mural. If I remember his name, I'll shoot you a pm.

The seats shown in the one photo are Cobra Misano's.


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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulsha911
Joe:

What kind of seats are those in the pic? I like them a lot.
Just found the thread. The seats are cobra misanos.

Edit: Looks like someone beat me to it....

Anyone know what they cost?
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