Bull

Same idea, except you are putting wear on the 2nd gear syncro instead of the 5th gear syncro. The 2nd gear syncro is usually the most used and often the first to go bad in a gear box, so I wouldn't choose that gear.

TomF

I will try the 5th gear trick too. Thanks for the suggestion.

Caveman

Bit of both, if we are talking a baout a few seconds then keep in gear with foot dpressed; if longer wait then into neutral, clutch pedal released.

DarrylH

This discussion is useful...

mborkow

always

leeham

I have a friend who has about 240K on the original clutch in his Saturn - not a lot like a 911, I know, but here's the trick: He shifts out of gear while coming up to a traffic light without depressing the clutch. He lets it get to about 1000 RPM then just pushes it out of gear. So, suppose I'm approaching a red light in 3rd and know I will have to stop. Do you think this technique would lengthen th 911's clutch life?

Always learning,

LeeH

kkim

I don't know if that will lengthen the life in a 993, but that is the same procedure I do if I can coast into a stop. Take it out of gear and coast into a stop using the brakes. In all the vehicles I have owned, I have never had to change out a clutch except in a truck @ 150k miles... and I think the major wear occurred due to it being my son's vehicle for a few years when he first got his licence. Darn kids!!

ca993twin

Bull is absolutely correct... 2nd gear synchro is THE most important synchro in your trans, Take care of it.

I can't see any beneficial result from popping into neutral before coming to a stop (with or without using the clutch) except to increase your brake wear. It is not a signficant factor in clutch wear.

Tom W

I'm contrarian. I put it in neutral if it will be a long wait. For a short stop, I don't bother. I've been driving this way for over 30 years and have never had an issue with a throw-out bearing on any of my cars. I've put 47,000 miles on the 993 driving it this way too (without issue).

Bull

Just to be clear, what Tom W describes here is what I do....subject to each person's definition of "a short stop". Most of my traffic controlled stops are on well known routes, and I have developed some good ideas of the likely length of those stops even where I can't see the amber light for the intersecting traffic.

When I was 19 years old and riding a motorcycle (yes, they had internal combustion engines back then!), I witnessed a young guy sitting at an intersection, reving his bike engine (we were both on Triumphs), when the clutch cable snapped and he shot out into the intersection. He lived, minus one leg. That stays with you a long time when you think about neutral at lights. Of course, it isn't likely with an idling engine in a car........

Sonic dB

I always put it in neutral and foot of the clutch at lights...or in heavy LA traffic. Sometimes I catch myself with my hand on the shift **** too long and remember to remove it.

The shift in to another gear first is an old 915 trick and is something that really helps on my 86 Carrera, I havent tried it on the 993 yet cause there seems to be no need to do so.

cooz

yes

David 23

Totally agree.

Rob 97 993c2

Why would you shift to neutral withOUT pressing the clutch? Is this bad? i always thought you should clutch-in anytime you move the shifter. pls correct me if im wrong

kkim

When I was riding sport bikes, I always left the bike in gear at stop lights and constantly scanned the rear view mirrors for fast approaching cars that don't see you. It at least gives you a chance to get out of their way if you think you're going to be rear ended. With the bike in neutral, it takes too long to get it back in gear to get out of the way. It happens more often than you would think.