Must VENT - cannot get engine oil filter off no matter what I try
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my last resort effort with a stuck filter i had a while back, i drove a 16", sharp pointed punch through it, enough to get a good bite on it , turned it slowly and off she came. good luck!!
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I had the same problem, but it took me TWO DAYS to get the filter off. Lots of cursing and oil dripping everywhere.
I then bought a inexpensive "Lockdown" oil filter wrench at the local independent auto parts store. (Kragen, et al gave me a 'Huh?" when I called them about one.) Under $10.
They come in several sizes, so bring your new filter to be and sure and get the right one.
Good luck.
I then bought a inexpensive "Lockdown" oil filter wrench at the local independent auto parts store. (Kragen, et al gave me a 'Huh?" when I called them about one.) Under $10.
They come in several sizes, so bring your new filter to be and sure and get the right one.
Good luck.
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Yup, that's it! (Pete is far classier than I am for posting a pic! )
That'll do it alrighty. 1/2" adapter and a breaker bar and I've never failed to undo another's gorilla grip. Happy twisting.
Edward
That'll do it alrighty. 1/2" adapter and a breaker bar and I've never failed to undo another's gorilla grip. Happy twisting.
Edward
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Thanks for all the suggestions
Hi,
thanks for all the suggestions so far - I had been away from my machine all day, but the problem was still very much on my mind!
I just skimmed the responses and wanted to squeeze a quick "thank you" in.
Kelly, thanks for the thread pointer - and thanks Chris for the sandpaper suggestion. Given that I borrowed the Porsche filter from a friend I don't want to destroy it by drilling into it.
I will check the (only!) local Auto Parts store, Monument Auto Parts for the "lock down" type wrench as that seems to have a good chance. I will keep everyone posted.
Thanks
/alex
thanks for all the suggestions so far - I had been away from my machine all day, but the problem was still very much on my mind!
I just skimmed the responses and wanted to squeeze a quick "thank you" in.
Kelly, thanks for the thread pointer - and thanks Chris for the sandpaper suggestion. Given that I borrowed the Porsche filter from a friend I don't want to destroy it by drilling into it.
I will check the (only!) local Auto Parts store, Monument Auto Parts for the "lock down" type wrench as that seems to have a good chance. I will keep everyone posted.
Thanks
/alex
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Alex,
You might want to take the filter you are going to install to the store with you to maybe find a cap type filter wrench that will fit it exactly. I know there are so many different patterns for filters, you might not be using the best one that is needed for the filter you're trying to remove.
If you do buy a cap type filter wrench, make sure it has a metal center portion insert, if the cap itself is made from plastic. The early, all plastic, models had a tendency to snap at the neck.
Also, when removing the filter, try applying strong upward pressure to "seat" the cap onto the filter while turning.
Good luck...
You might want to take the filter you are going to install to the store with you to maybe find a cap type filter wrench that will fit it exactly. I know there are so many different patterns for filters, you might not be using the best one that is needed for the filter you're trying to remove.
If you do buy a cap type filter wrench, make sure it has a metal center portion insert, if the cap itself is made from plastic. The early, all plastic, models had a tendency to snap at the neck.
Also, when removing the filter, try applying strong upward pressure to "seat" the cap onto the filter while turning.
Good luck...
#21
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when you put the new filter on make sure you put a coat of oil on the o ring so that next time it will not be such a problem to get off. When you dont it bakes the seal to the engine and it a real pain to get off.
Chris
Chris
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I am with several of you above. Drive a screwdriver through the filter and "git er done!" The tool pictured above seems useful however. On other cars, I have even driven a longer screwdriver all the way through so I could get one hand on each side for leverage. Clearly, there is not enough room on a 993 for this!
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If the filter is on as tight as it seems, the screwdriver will tear the filter apart then you're really stuck.
I still don't know what the problem is....not getting enough leverage or a slipping wrench. From his sandpaper thank you and the fact that he is looking for a new wrench, I assume it is a slipping wrench. If that is the case, the lockdown should do the trick. It applies more pressure to the filter as the wrench is turned counter-clockwise. Assuming you can get a good position on the filter so that it doesn't twist off you'll be good to go.
The longer the arms the better, but mine looks just like the one in the picture and I haven't had any problems with it.
For those concerned about the impact wrench option, I will say that I have NEVER tried it but would if necessesary in a VERY GENTLE, SMALL INCREMENTAL increases in force until it came loose. I am sure that the cylindrical shape of the filter will transfer quite a bit of for to the filter top before destroying itself. It would be a very last ditch effort!
I still don't know what the problem is....not getting enough leverage or a slipping wrench. From his sandpaper thank you and the fact that he is looking for a new wrench, I assume it is a slipping wrench. If that is the case, the lockdown should do the trick. It applies more pressure to the filter as the wrench is turned counter-clockwise. Assuming you can get a good position on the filter so that it doesn't twist off you'll be good to go.
The longer the arms the better, but mine looks just like the one in the picture and I haven't had any problems with it.
For those concerned about the impact wrench option, I will say that I have NEVER tried it but would if necessesary in a VERY GENTLE, SMALL INCREMENTAL increases in force until it came loose. I am sure that the cylindrical shape of the filter will transfer quite a bit of for to the filter top before destroying itself. It would be a very last ditch effort!
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I watched the shop remove that filter on my car last time...They used a strap type filter wrench with a 3/8" square hole for a socket extension. He put the strap up real close to the mounting surface of the filter. He also removed a few of the bits and pieces in the way.
Good luck!
Good luck!
#25
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it's both
Jeff,
in response to your question:
* the Porsche wrench slips - I am told that although not common, it has happened before
* on the Lisle strap-type wrench I cannot seem to get enough leverage on it to bend tighten the strap around the filter and turn the filter.
I will keep you posted on what ends up working.
/alex
in response to your question:
* the Porsche wrench slips - I am told that although not common, it has happened before
* on the Lisle strap-type wrench I cannot seem to get enough leverage on it to bend tighten the strap around the filter and turn the filter.
I will keep you posted on what ends up working.
/alex
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Originally Posted by ard
Jeff,
in response to your question:
* the Porsche wrench slips - .
/alex
in response to your question:
* the Porsche wrench slips - .
/alex
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Am using a similar filter wrench like shown by Pete Lech. Got it at Sears; Craftsman number 46952 (well, that's what's engraved in it). So far (91K miles), has worked OK.
Then again, have NOT run into a similar problem like you - or like I ran into on my old '84 Carrera. One time I had a filter that wouldn't budge no matter what I did. Finally had to destroy the outside filter can and the inner paper filter element, then remove the oil tank so I could cut off the steel filter backing plate (part of the filter with the rubber gasket that seals against the car) using a Dremel tool. No fun at all (see pretty picture).
For info, what caused this was following the installation directions stamped into the filter body - "screw in hand tight then tighten another 1/2 turn". That last 1/2 turn froze the filter solid to the oil tank. Never did that again; ever since have just tightened the filter hand tight - as firm hand tight as I could get it, but used ONLY my fingers, wrist, and arm to tighten it.
Hope you don't get into having to destroying the filter, because if you do getting at all parts of that engine filter will drive you nuts.
Then again, have NOT run into a similar problem like you - or like I ran into on my old '84 Carrera. One time I had a filter that wouldn't budge no matter what I did. Finally had to destroy the outside filter can and the inner paper filter element, then remove the oil tank so I could cut off the steel filter backing plate (part of the filter with the rubber gasket that seals against the car) using a Dremel tool. No fun at all (see pretty picture).
For info, what caused this was following the installation directions stamped into the filter body - "screw in hand tight then tighten another 1/2 turn". That last 1/2 turn froze the filter solid to the oil tank. Never did that again; ever since have just tightened the filter hand tight - as firm hand tight as I could get it, but used ONLY my fingers, wrist, and arm to tighten it.
Hope you don't get into having to destroying the filter, because if you do getting at all parts of that engine filter will drive you nuts.
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success - the craftsman tool did it
Hi,
I finally got the filter off using the Craftsman tool suggested here (see link below).
With the tool and an 18" breaker bar the filter came off without much drama. What a relief!
Thanks to _everyone_ who responded and said "yes it can be done - keep trying". That was key.
/alex
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&vertical=TOOL
I finally got the filter off using the Craftsman tool suggested here (see link below).
With the tool and an 18" breaker bar the filter came off without much drama. What a relief!
Thanks to _everyone_ who responded and said "yes it can be done - keep trying". That was key.
/alex
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...&vertical=TOOL