Spark Plug Tool Fiasco
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Spark Plug Tool Fiasco
I began my 30,000 mile service today. I planned to start by replacing the distributor caps and rotors, and the top 3 spark plugs on the left side. The caps and rotors went fine, using Robin's DIY, and yes, the screws holding the caps are pretty tight. I used a small ratchet with a Phillips bit, so I could bear down on the screw and get good torque without slipping.
When I changed the first spark plug, I couldn't get the boot to seat on the new plug. Then I realized that the rubber retainer inside my 20-year-old spark plug socket had pulled out, and was still on the spark plug. When I tried to seat the boot, I had pushed the retainer further down onto the hex of the spark plug. This made for a lot of fun with an inspection mirror and a wire hook, trying to fish it out (no joy), and then forcing the socket over the rubber to finally get the new plug back out.
Then off to get a new spark plug socket. Autozone had a 3/8 drive 5/8 inch socket with a magnetic retainer for $5.99. It has just the perfect tension to hold the spark plug while you insert it, and to pull off the plug after it is tightened without the socket being pulled off the extension. Great tool, great price!
If you have one of the spark plug sockets with the rubber retainer, it could be a problem waiting to bite you--toss it in the trash and get one of these magnetic ones.
When I changed the first spark plug, I couldn't get the boot to seat on the new plug. Then I realized that the rubber retainer inside my 20-year-old spark plug socket had pulled out, and was still on the spark plug. When I tried to seat the boot, I had pushed the retainer further down onto the hex of the spark plug. This made for a lot of fun with an inspection mirror and a wire hook, trying to fish it out (no joy), and then forcing the socket over the rubber to finally get the new plug back out.
Then off to get a new spark plug socket. Autozone had a 3/8 drive 5/8 inch socket with a magnetic retainer for $5.99. It has just the perfect tension to hold the spark plug while you insert it, and to pull off the plug after it is tightened without the socket being pulled off the extension. Great tool, great price!
If you have one of the spark plug sockets with the rubber retainer, it could be a problem waiting to bite you--toss it in the trash and get one of these magnetic ones.
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A little oil on the rubber insert helps as well. I do like the idea of a magnetic version, however. Thanks for the tip!
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Thanks for the info Bob. I'm still debating on whether or not to do the plugs myself. I've been thinking I should wait for some other engine problem to develop first, and leave it as a "while your in there" project.
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I hadn't heard of the magnetic retainer before, thanks.
Another useful item is the 3/8 extensions available (Sears?) with a sliding release mechanism - you can't just pull the socket off the end, you *have* to use the release to get it off.
Another useful item is the 3/8 extensions available (Sears?) with a sliding release mechanism - you can't just pull the socket off the end, you *have* to use the release to get it off.
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Having just done my plugs and fishing some out with a magnetic tool because of the non grip rubber in the socket I devised a magnetic one
Got the Extended reach spark plug socket at Harbor Freight and glued a magnet in it, also of use is the little ratched wheel set, essentially its a disc with a ratchet mechanism and the nub to attach to a socket, this worked for all plugs ...number six of course was a bear as the socket is just a bit too long, I am going to get another one and shave a bit off the end for the next plug change
Got the Extended reach spark plug socket at Harbor Freight and glued a magnet in it, also of use is the little ratched wheel set, essentially its a disc with a ratchet mechanism and the nub to attach to a socket, this worked for all plugs ...number six of course was a bear as the socket is just a bit too long, I am going to get another one and shave a bit off the end for the next plug change
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I have a magnetic one that I have used on my 911's for the past 15 years or so...think I sourced it from Baum tools at the time. Works like a charm!
I also have 2-3 variants in length depending on where the plug is.
Cheers,
Mike
I also have 2-3 variants in length depending on where the plug is.
Cheers,
Mike
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I use a common trick.
I have a rubber socket and a non-insert socket.
I use the rubber socket for removal, and put the new plug in a length of rubber hose. Use that to get the plug started. Basically impossible to crossthread, bends around everything, and pops right off the plug.
Then just finish up with the standard socket.
I have a rubber socket and a non-insert socket.
I use the rubber socket for removal, and put the new plug in a length of rubber hose. Use that to get the plug started. Basically impossible to crossthread, bends around everything, and pops right off the plug.
Then just finish up with the standard socket.
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What does happen is the extension comes off the spark plug socket when trying to pull the assembly off the spark plug. I need to get a locking extension.
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The best spark plug socket set I've seen. You'll notice the extension is integrated to the socket, it won't come off.
K-D tools at Amazon
K-D tools at Amazon
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The best spark plug socket set I've seen. You'll notice the extension is integrated to the socket, it won't come off.
K-D tools at Amazon
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Do I have that right and if so, how did your KD set work for you in that case? Or was your spark plug change an engine-out procedure?
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Bill, I was going to order a set about a year ago, but after doing an engine-in spark plug change, I think I remember needing to feed the spark plug socket in first and then the extension on a few of them due to a lack of space.
Do I have that right and if so, how did your KD set work for you in that case? Or was your spark plug change an engine-out procedure?
Do I have that right and if so, how did your KD set work for you in that case? Or was your spark plug change an engine-out procedure?
The KD set also works well on the Cayenne and the M3.
I wouldn't do this job without them (or something very similar).
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Another tip for the distributor cap screws: to break the seemingly frozen screws, turn in the tightening direction first to break the screws loose. Then remove. This way the slot is not messed up on the remove direction.
Gotta get me a K-D spark plug socket...nice tip!
Cheers!
Gotta get me a K-D spark plug socket...nice tip!
Cheers!
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The best spark plug socket set I've seen. You'll notice the extension is integrated to the socket, it won't come off.
K-D tools at Amazon
K-D tools at Amazon