ot: hey dads/moms...what's your choice for sport wagon?
#46
Passed On
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Presently have 98K+ miles on my '98 Audi A4 Avant. Been very happy with it; am starting to shop around for a 2006 S4 Avant to replace it. S4 is one idea but the back seat is awful tight.
Drove a used S6 Avant a year ago when started considering the A4 replacement. Car was an absolute blast; started negotiations but delayed when I found the car had been in an accident.
Tried a Dodge Magnum Hemi a few months ago. Great bang-for-the-buck but too hot rod-ish. After driving the Audi Tiptronic in both the S6 and a 2004 S4 the Dodge automatic felt too much like a standard American automatic- too much of a torque converter feel (the Audis felt more direct and closer feeling to a manual tranny - do a manual downshift and the engine would blip up RPM to match engine and tranny speed - just like a heel-and-toe downshift). Have heard the SRT is more Euro/sporty oriented but it's just RWD - not suited for Western PA winters.
Drove a used S6 Avant a year ago when started considering the A4 replacement. Car was an absolute blast; started negotiations but delayed when I found the car had been in an accident.
Tried a Dodge Magnum Hemi a few months ago. Great bang-for-the-buck but too hot rod-ish. After driving the Audi Tiptronic in both the S6 and a 2004 S4 the Dodge automatic felt too much like a standard American automatic- too much of a torque converter feel (the Audis felt more direct and closer feeling to a manual tranny - do a manual downshift and the engine would blip up RPM to match engine and tranny speed - just like a heel-and-toe downshift). Have heard the SRT is more Euro/sporty oriented but it's just RWD - not suited for Western PA winters.
#47
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by Ray Calvo
Presently have 98K+ miles on my '98 Audi A4 Avant. Been very happy with it; am starting to shop around for a 2006 S4 Avant to replace it. S4 is one idea but the back seat is awful tight.
Drove a used S6 Avant a year ago when started considering the A4 replacement. Car was an absolute blast; started negotiations but delayed when I found the car had been in an accident.
Drove a used S6 Avant a year ago when started considering the A4 replacement. Car was an absolute blast; started negotiations but delayed when I found the car had been in an accident.
i'm pretty interested in the '02-'03 s6. but i drove the e-class benz with the v8 yesterday and...mary, mother-of-god, that is a nice wagon! wow. i'd suggest a look if you all are also looking at wagons. the a6 is not out yet. i also drove the 5 series touring and it is nice as well, but not like the benz.
these are the issues i have with bmw 530xi v. benz e500 scenario. after all is said and done (adding bmw options and slashing benz sticker with dealer incentives), the price is similar:58ish. the benz store and sales people are well sorted and knowledgeable, very kind, and probably more trustworthy. this bmw kid i delt with was a laugher. i actually had to ask how long he was selling (2 years) half-way through the visit. he knew nothing. no joke here. this dude knew nothing about the bmw, let alone the competition. he told me i needed to look at the big picture- whatever that meant. i think he was trying to sell the car, but who the hell knows.
the benz is quicker, quieter, roomier, has third row, and feels better- to me. the bmw is better looking. the bmw also has that idrive system which gave me a good and proper laugh. looks cool, but the wife would have a stroke.
#48
Pro
Gerry,
Love the LR3. Just wish "Ford Rover" didn't wuss out on calling it a Discovery III, as in the ROW.
Until some LR3's come back off of lease, I'll keep driving my BIG wagon (96 Range Rover with 138K) into the ground.
Love the LR3. Just wish "Ford Rover" didn't wuss out on calling it a Discovery III, as in the ROW.
Until some LR3's come back off of lease, I'll keep driving my BIG wagon (96 Range Rover with 138K) into the ground.