What is the "fastest" road-going NA air cooled Porsche?
04-24-2005, 12:45 AM
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I respectfully disagree with all the answers posted so far.
The Porsche 917 did exist as a road registered car. It is naturally aspirated and air-cooled, and it beats every car posted so far in this thread in 0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed. It is the clear winner!
I'll even put my money where my mouth is. If anyone can prove me wrong, I'll give them a DVD of "Le Mans", featuring the 917
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The Porsche 917 did exist as a road registered car. It is naturally aspirated and air-cooled, and it beats every car posted so far in this thread in 0-60, 1/4 mile, top speed. It is the clear winner!
I'll even put my money where my mouth is. If anyone can prove me wrong, I'll give them a DVD of "Le Mans", featuring the 917
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04-24-2005, 01:06 AM
#32
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Your Honour, in evidence for the Defence, I present Exhibit A - a page from the original Porsche 917 sales brochure:
And Exhibit B, a photo of a road-registered and road-going 917 (owned by Count Rossi):
And Exhibit B, a photo of a road-registered and road-going 917 (owned by Count Rossi):
04-24-2005, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
Was Rossi's car the 917K or the 917/10K?
It is a 5 litre naturally-aspirated engine, developing 630hp, and accelerating from 0-62mph in 2.7 seconds.
04-24-2005, 04:28 AM
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Graham,
You are probably right, but it looks like an exotic one-off proposition to me.
Adrian,
How about the 911 Carrera RS 2.8 litre RSR? 900 kilos and 308 hp.
911 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre
Regards
You are probably right, but it looks like an exotic one-off proposition to me.
Adrian,
How about the 911 Carrera RS 2.8 litre RSR? 900 kilos and 308 hp.
911 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre
Regards
04-24-2005, 06:22 AM
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The 917 does not count because it is a converted racing car from a non road car requirement class.
It was NEVER a production model nor a series, nor is it even based on a genuine road car.
It was a one off with a special engine and was not even a homologation version for a racing series of cars.
Next somebody will come up with a road registered F1 car of the times which was possible in those days.
Ciao,
Adrian.
It was NEVER a production model nor a series, nor is it even based on a genuine road car.
It was a one off with a special engine and was not even a homologation version for a racing series of cars.
Next somebody will come up with a road registered F1 car of the times which was possible in those days.
Ciao,
Adrian.
04-24-2005, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 993RS
Graham,
You are probably right, but it looks like an exotic one-off proposition to me.
Adrian,
How about the 911 Carrera RS 2.8 litre RSR? 900 kilos and 308 hp.
911 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre
Regards
You are probably right, but it looks like an exotic one-off proposition to me.
Adrian,
How about the 911 Carrera RS 2.8 litre RSR? 900 kilos and 308 hp.
911 Carrera RSR 3.8 litre
Regards
The original request was for street legal. The RS series is street legal but the RSR series (with one special exception) are pure racing cars and not street legal.
Ciao,
Adrian.
04-24-2005, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian
The 917 does not count because it is a converted racing car from a non road car requirement class.
Originally Posted by Adrian
It was a one off with a special engine and was not even a homologation version for a racing series of cars.
04-24-2005, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
....fastest factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced?....
Now if the question was with regards to a "production vehicle" then I think the 917 wouldn't count.
04-24-2005, 10:54 AM
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The 964 Carrera 4 RS was never manufactured as street or road legal. One was registered in the UK but only with a chassis number and the process had nothing to do with Porsche.
The 917 it was never produced as a road car nor on the production line from the factory.
Those 25 in the line up are homolgated racing cars not homologation road cars for a racing car.
The 917 was built by Porsche motorsports and not at the factory.
If people want to believe that the 917 was a street legal road car they can but I classify the 917 as a pure bred race car and the road registered version was nothing more than a converted race car with badly applied number plates
That front plate looks like it is about to fly off 
The other issue would be the restrictions that were applied to those numbers plates. Were they FULL unrestricted plates or restricted plates. Many nations have special restricted plates which allow non street legal cars on the road for certain events or to transit.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: This was the original question.
"factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced?"
The Porsche Factory did NOT build the 917 in those pictures.
The 964 Carrera RS 3.8 would also have to be withdrawn because that was also built by Porsche Motorsports.
This would leave the 964 Carrera RS or 993 Carrera RS as the front runners.
The 917 it was never produced as a road car nor on the production line from the factory.
Those 25 in the line up are homolgated racing cars not homologation road cars for a racing car.
The 917 was built by Porsche motorsports and not at the factory.
If people want to believe that the 917 was a street legal road car they can but I classify the 917 as a pure bred race car and the road registered version was nothing more than a converted race car with badly applied number plates
That front plate looks like it is about to fly off The other issue would be the restrictions that were applied to those numbers plates. Were they FULL unrestricted plates or restricted plates. Many nations have special restricted plates which allow non street legal cars on the road for certain events or to transit.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: This was the original question.
"factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced?"
The Porsche Factory did NOT build the 917 in those pictures.
The 964 Carrera RS 3.8 would also have to be withdrawn because that was also built by Porsche Motorsports.
This would leave the 964 Carrera RS or 993 Carrera RS as the front runners.
Last edited by Adrian; 04-24-2005 at 05:19 PM.
04-24-2005, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrian
The 964 Carrera 4 RS was never manufactured as street or road legal. One was registered in the UK but only with a chassis number and the process had nothing to do with Porsche.
The 917 it was never produced as a road car nor on the production line from the factory.
Those 25 in the line up are homolgated racing cars not homologation road cars for a racing car.
The 917 was built by Porsche motorsports and not at the factory.
If people want to believe that the 917 was a street legal road car they can but I classify the 917 as a pure bred race car and the road registered version was nothing more than a converted race car with badly applied number plates That front plate looks like it is about to fly off :rolfmao:
The other issue would be the restrictions that were applied to those numbers plates. Were they FULL unrestricted plates or restricted plates. Many nations have special restricted plates which allow non street legal cars on the road for certain events or to transit.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: This was the original question.
"factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced?"
The Porsche Factory did NOT build the 917 in those pictures.
The 964 Carrera RS 3.8 would also have to be withdrawn because that was also built by Porsche Motorsports.
This would leave the 964 Carrera RS or 993 Carrera RS as the front runners.
The 917 it was never produced as a road car nor on the production line from the factory.
Those 25 in the line up are homolgated racing cars not homologation road cars for a racing car.
The 917 was built by Porsche motorsports and not at the factory.
If people want to believe that the 917 was a street legal road car they can but I classify the 917 as a pure bred race car and the road registered version was nothing more than a converted race car with badly applied number plates
That front plate looks like it is about to fly off :rolfmao:The other issue would be the restrictions that were applied to those numbers plates. Were they FULL unrestricted plates or restricted plates. Many nations have special restricted plates which allow non street legal cars on the road for certain events or to transit.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: This was the original question.
"factory-produced street legal NA air cooled Porsche ever produced?"
The Porsche Factory did NOT build the 917 in those pictures.
The 964 Carrera RS 3.8 would also have to be withdrawn because that was also built by Porsche Motorsports.
This would leave the 964 Carrera RS or 993 Carrera RS as the front runners.
