how hard is hard..
#16
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I use my car around town a lot...how to you guys manage to redline these cars on city streets without endangering everybody? We have had a real spat of bad traffic accidents here in Vancouver due to idiots road-racing on public streets and, driving a Porsche, stand a real chance of losing my licence if I get caught at any significant speed. The public is really peeved up here and a p-car stands out like a sore thumb....
I can see some spirited driving on highways or country roads but how about city streets? If I go anywhere near redline even in 2nd its way over the city speed limit......
Yes the car gets tracked but not that often. I can't afford to have this car in the garage only for track work...I need to use it daily.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Mike
I can see some spirited driving on highways or country roads but how about city streets? If I go anywhere near redline even in 2nd its way over the city speed limit......
Yes the car gets tracked but not that often. I can't afford to have this car in the garage only for track work...I need to use it daily.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Mike
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I remember reading in the manual for my '88 930, something like:
"Once a day, with the engine at operating temperature, please accelerate at full throttle to redline in first gear. This helps to clear any moisture from the wastegate."
Now that's a great owner instruction. The only problem (as Mike J notes above) is that in the four-speed 930s of that vintage, redline in first gear was 58mph. I was able to find places to obey the manual :-) but it is not always easy ... life is tough eh (as we say in Canada).
Regards,
"Once a day, with the engine at operating temperature, please accelerate at full throttle to redline in first gear. This helps to clear any moisture from the wastegate."
Now that's a great owner instruction. The only problem (as Mike J notes above) is that in the four-speed 930s of that vintage, redline in first gear was 58mph. I was able to find places to obey the manual :-) but it is not always easy ... life is tough eh (as we say in Canada).
Regards,
#19
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Freeway on-ramps! I can rationalize that you should enter the freeway at somewhat faster speeds than the traffic flow... so you can ease on the brakes if you need to for a nice safe merge. 120 mph seems like about the correct velocity. The really juicy on-ramps are 270 degree jobbers, some with decreasing radius. Its just the safe and prudent way to merge.
I try and take my car to full throttle redline at least once after its fully warmed up. Usually in 3rd gear. Too bad it happens so fast!
I try and take my car to full throttle redline at least once after its fully warmed up. Usually in 3rd gear. Too bad it happens so fast!
#20
Race Director
The RUF rarely sees redline except in first and second gears. As someone said before, redline in 3rd is above 100 MPH.
With Bay Area traffic, it's virtually impossible to drive the RUF hard. Just way too many cars on the road. I'd go very early (6ish) into the mountains and drive for about 40-60 miles, mostly second gears. That's when I had fun in my car. Unfortunaltely, we had about 3-4 non-rainly weekends since November 2004, so this had been a terrible year for fun drives. With the car in VB's place and all, I only put on 1,500 miles since September 2004, and that included a 400 miles foray last week into N. Cal.
CP
With Bay Area traffic, it's virtually impossible to drive the RUF hard. Just way too many cars on the road. I'd go very early (6ish) into the mountains and drive for about 40-60 miles, mostly second gears. That's when I had fun in my car. Unfortunaltely, we had about 3-4 non-rainly weekends since November 2004, so this had been a terrible year for fun drives. With the car in VB's place and all, I only put on 1,500 miles since September 2004, and that included a 400 miles foray last week into N. Cal.
CP
#21
Originally Posted by PedroNole
Now that's what I'm talkin' about
Now we got some real drivers talkin here.
Some of these posts seem like I'm on some geriatric forum. Good god, what do you mean you can't get to redline in two gears on city streets?????????????
Are you kidding? What... you guys only drive at rush hour? Get a Navigator and sell that car to someone that can drive it.
#23
Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who believes in proper acceleration on on ramps to facilitate proper merging. To the extent that you can hit the high revs in 3rd its always good to see if you can do the broad sweep directly into the high speed lane directly from the on ramp. Of course such practices are only warranted when executed safely.
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Once warm, I will get my car at or near redline every time I stretch her legs. The worst thing we can do to these fine machines is lug them. Imagine locking a Chetah in a cage. My mechanic thinks it is important that the cars are thoroughly exercised. Music to my ears.
#25
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I try and take my car to full throttle redline at least once after its fully warmed up. Usually in 3rd gear. Too bad it happens so fast!
#27
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Originally Posted by Moogle
driving hard isn't all about straight line acceleration
When you start smelling hot brake dust and after you've stopped, when your tires are little hot to touch, you know you're driving hard.
When I'm at track I don't usually go up to rev limiter, if particular corner or other situation requires (i.e. when really going "at it" with someone else who is as fast or faster than me), I go higher but usually I change at about 6000-6500.
This is only DEs but if it was a race, then I'd pretty much always go up to redline.
#29
Nordschleife Master
i have bounced off the limiter several times. based on everything i read and hear, this is ok for these cars because factory specs and parameters are pretty conservative.
#30
Revving the motor out under load is good for the motor. If you always baby a motor, she is not use to being revved etc and eventually will fail at the seals, beairngs etc. I believe the "Italian tuneup" is the best to explain it. A driven car is better than a pampered one at times.
My car feels faster than when I first bought her because I actually bounce off the limiter sometimes when driving. Dones not mean I am messing the car up.
Goodluck!
-G
My car feels faster than when I first bought her because I actually bounce off the limiter sometimes when driving. Dones not mean I am messing the car up.
Goodluck!
-G