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Old 04-08-2005 | 12:48 AM
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that's great terry, now i can tell my wife that even sensible mature adults do MODs....
so, when are you coming to the track with us? bob is going to BW next weekend.
Old 04-08-2005 | 01:15 AM
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No track guys. My mid life crisis vehicle was a hang glider, which I totalled once yet kept flying. Now that I am a (retired) sensible mature adult, I can't afford that slope.
Old 04-21-2005 | 08:45 AM
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OK...the slippery slope is calling pretty loud now.....RS LFW and clutch in two weeks!!!!! I hate you all....or at least my bank manager does !!!!

Seperate note...with the engine out and new clutch/LWF going in what other jobs should be done that are not $$$$ I know about the Power Steering belt...what else
Old 04-21-2005 | 08:57 AM
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I'm going to do this when my clutch comes up for replacement. Some of you mention anissue with early 993s. What's that all about? Mine is 1995 C4. Also is there anything worth doing at the same time (other than my slight oil leak? ;-) )?

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Old 04-21-2005 | 09:00 AM
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OK, here's the bottom line and absolute truth about dual mass flywheel:

Dual mass flywheel is one of the worst things is 993 and this is your chance to fix it.

They started installing these on Porsches because of overly sensitive pimpin' poseurs, I get the pictuer you're not one of them so there really is no issue here.
Old 04-21-2005 | 10:19 AM
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"what other jobs should be done that are not $$$$"
as long as the engine is out i think i would replace the spark plugs (if you haven't done so recently)
Old 04-21-2005 | 11:37 AM
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[QUOTE=David in Chicago]Doesn't Andial offer a "mid-weight" flywheel? Does anyone have any experience with this part? Does it diminish the "rattling" in neutral? (If not then, of course, it wouldn't seem to have much benefit over the standard LWF).

I have the Andial "mid-weight" flywheel, and have had this in the car for the past four (4) years. The gear set rattling around noise is there: Depress the clutch, and the noise goes away.
Old 04-21-2005 | 11:41 AM
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Excuse my ignorance but why is there this rattle? Isn't the RS clutch/flywheel like the 3.2 and earlier clutches with a light weight freewheel? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.
Old 04-21-2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Caveman
Excuse my ignorance but why is there this rattle? Isn't the RS clutch/flywheel like the 3.2 and earlier clutches with a light weight freewheel? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.
I've got a similar question: Is the clutch noise "normal" on stock RS cars like Monique and others have, or is it a byproduct of putting the "wrong part" in a conventional 993 model? I'd be more concerned if it was the latter than the former.
Old 04-21-2005 | 12:21 PM
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Caveman,

There are a few recent postings that suggest that stalling can be a problem with pre-96 cars.

I am also interested to learn if the rattles are present on cars that have the LWF as standard.
Old 04-21-2005 | 12:34 PM
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Isn't stalling just part of getting used to the clutch (car and driver!). When I was looking for my old 3.2 years ago I was warned that I would probably stall the car the first time I drove it and lo and behold if I didn't do this...
Old 04-21-2005 | 12:44 PM
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the whole noise issue for the LWF is really overblown. I was worried about the same thing when I had mine done and tt Andial about the MWF option. Bottom line: you only need a MWF if you have a '95 and the LWF is certainly one of the the best mods you can do on this car. If your clutch is bad it is an absolute no-brainer. THE NOISE IS TINY COMPARED TO THE PERFORMANCE GAIN.
Old 04-21-2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Caveman
Isn't stalling just part of getting used to the clutch (car and driver!). When I was looking for my old 3.2 years ago I was warned that I would probably stall the car the first time I drove it and lo and behold if I didn't do this...
Caveman,

No, it's because when you disengage the clutch and go to neutral the revs drop too quickly (less mass on the flywheel) and too low, causing the engine to stall. (OBD2 is supposed to be better able to prevent/adjust for this than the ODB1.)

There are some adjustments the driver can make to driving style, such as not shift into neutral while stopping until 1,000 or 1,500 rpms, but that may not always work. And a stalling car isn't exactly the safest thing for you or others.

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Old 04-21-2005 | 01:04 PM
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So the obvious question is is there anyone out there that has put the LWF into a 1995 car and if so what happened?

Cheers,

David
Old 04-21-2005 | 01:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Martin S.]
Originally Posted by David in Chicago
Doesn't Andial offer a "mid-weight" flywheel? Does anyone have any experience with this part? Does it diminish the "rattling" in neutral? (If not then, of course, it wouldn't seem to have much benefit over the standard LWF).

I have the Andial "mid-weight" flywheel, and have had this in the car for the past four (4) years. The gear set rattling around noise is there: Depress the clutch, and the noise goes away.

Does a standard flywheel/clutch make any noise at idle? My car has a rattly noise at idle, so perhaps I already have this mod. How can I tell without opening it up? I just found out in the process of changing the suspension for RoW M030 that the PO did replace the springs with RoW Turbo springs - maybe he did the LFW/RS clutch as well.

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