ishmeal

Actually, I'm looking to pay around $33K for a nice example for a 993. I'm leaning toward a 95 or 96 cause they should hypo' slightly be lower in price. Think that's a reasonable start?

mrsullivan

depends on condition, options, color, mileage, etc...

is that a reasonable start for a NB car w/ 50k+ miles, yes....

is that a reasonable start for an "S" car w/less than 40k miles, no... not even close...

really it helps to talk specifics re: year, mileage, history, condition, color, options, etc. ... then its much easier to give a price impression

ishmeal

1995, 1996 w/60Kmiles C2 in stock, no mods (vanilla), ofcourse: good condition verified thru PPI and good history

Stupid question, but since I've searched and read quite a few threads and still couldn't get the answer, my question: What's the diff between a wide and narrow body 993? Which years? Diff's besides the obvious? (I also scoured thru my Excellence mags and couldn't find an article talking about the widebody in 993 - I only thought this was only found in 911 and all 993's were wide body).

ventoGT

The wide body cars are all designated as Carrera "S" or Carrera "4S". As for the C2S, it had the wider body, front bumper from the Turbo along with side skirts and typeface on the Tach designating it as an "S" model. The C4S also had the Turbo running gear [wheels (although not hollow spoke), Big red Brakes, suspension]. The short answer is yes, all 993s look like widebody cars because of their "hips", but if you park a NB car next to an S or Turbo, you can definitely tell the difference.

The narrow bodies are definitely cheaper than the widebodies by a good margin. If you are looking at a '95 or '96, it shouldn't matter anyway because to my knowledge the widebodies didn't show up until 97 anyway [the C4S may have shown up in MY96, but not exactly sure].

If you are looking at low to mid $30Ks, kiss the widebodies goodbye. Not to worry though as many people are happy [myself included] with the look of the NB cars, and you can save your $$ to put new suspension and some other mods on it! Good luck, and I think if you are ok with 50+K miles you can find a car with no stories in the 1995-96 range if you are patient, and of course you know already to get a PPI done.

StatmanDesigns

They can be found, but generally NOT when you are looking for one. Last summer I owned a 1989 Carrera Coupe and thought I was several years away from upgrading to a 993. Turns out a friend of a friend had a 1996 C2 coupe sitting unused in his garage since he had purchased a 1997 993tt, and now never drove the C2.

I sold my 1989 to the first person that looked at it, and bought his pristine 1996 993 for low $30K. The specifics are 25K miles, 1 owner, all books and records, complete service history. Guards red over cashmere. I did not want a red car, but it always amazes me that people think they have color choice with used cars. At the price, I could not pass up the deal.

A few weeks ago I was offered $39K for my car (now with 29K miles), from a dealer friend that has a buyer in the $41K region.

So, while $40K is a more realistic retail price, it is possible to find a deal on a 993, but generally you just have to be prepared when one falls into your lap. I could not imagine going back to a 3.2L Carrera after owning my 993.

ishmeal

Well, I hadn't planned on a widebody. Just wanted someone to clear up what it was, cause listening in on conversations, it was 993 lingo I wasn't familiar with. I'm a long time porsche fan and I only pine for 2 porsches, the early 69-73 911 and the 993. I started looking for an early 911, but I'm kinda winded from the search and thought that the 993 would probably be a better buy. So I'm here to learn and get shopping advice. Thanks.

Randall G.

He was probably thinking about the 912 version of the 993.

David in LA

If you are looking to pay $33k for the car then you should budget a total of about $38k for taxes and unforseen repairs, etc.

Dudley

Leland provided the definitive answer as to the differences between a Wide Body and Narrow Body 993. (That is Keith's 4S.) I don't believe you cold buy either of these cars for $27K.

Benton

I'd sell my '95 for $35k

Jagbuff

Remember that you are posting to a group of passionate 993 guys and some are willing to pay 20-30% higher than market to get the perfect car with the right options etc... the "emotional" value is quite higher, but this group is the exception, not the morn. I don't think the KBB is very accurate when it comes to older and lower production cars, however; if you shop a little you can find a good car under under $30K. I found my one owner, 22k miles, mint 97 Cab for about $10K less than the typical typical price I heard quoted on the list after looking for 3-4 weeks. Bought it from a private party that was knowledgeable about Porsches but also didn't want to sit on it for one of the rare buyers that was willing to pay the emotional premium.
Good Luck

Dudley

Obviously, price is very dependent upon both the buyer and seller. There is a show broadcast on PBS, Antiques Roadshow. Every week, someone displays a valuable item that they bought for very little for from an unknowing seller. On the subject of 993 values, you will find very few unknowing owners/sellers on this forum.

Tom Mazz

I just sold my 95 993 with 57k on it for under 30K. I have seen alot of MY 95 for under 30k and in pretty decent shape. This tells me that a 96 or 97 with 60k should go for the low 30k at a private party sale. Just my .02.

black993man

KBB is a fine reference for pricing high volume cars with lots of datapoints. I don't find their data to be all that useful for low volume sports cars. For one, their checkbox list of optional accessories used for computing resale value is typically unrepresentative of the actual vehicle options found on Porsches and is generic (i.e. Cassette player? Premium Wheels? Car Freshener Pine Tree hanging from mirror?).

If you want a more definitive reference on Porsche pricing, look at Bruce Anderson's market updates in Excellence Magazine.

DC from Cape Cod

...and then add $10,000+