E. J. - 993 Alumni

I have posted the wiring harness TSBs on my site and updated the harness section. If you have ANY questions about the harness recall, all the information you need including: the VIN numbers of the affected cars, part numbers, customer mailing, service action notice, dealer technical information, Customer Reimbursement Application Form, and the repair procedures for the dealer service technicians are contained in these TSB documents.

The bottom line is that there are still some unanswered questions and bad information coming from the dealers. The dealers Service Managers are still the best source of information. If you have an affected car by your VIN number and the dealer still gives you a hard time, be a concerned consumer and take a printed version of the TSB directly to the dealer Service Manager and demand that they explain why your car is being overlooked by the dealer while your car is clearly affected as outlined in the TSB. It is up to you to force them to take action. You now have all the tools necessary to fix the problem.

Finally, as I have said many times before, this is a very serious problem. Your car could burn to the ground if this situation is not fixed. Do not take it lightly. Take your car to the dealer to be sure. Let them fix it if they determine your car needs it.

Here is the direct link to the information on my website. As always, you can also reach it from my main page link in my signature.

Additionally, here are the links to all the wiring harness threads on this 993 board. Between these Rennlist threads, the TSBs and my site, you should be able to answer all your questions.

Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4 Link 5 Link 6 Link 8 Link 9 Link 10 Link 11 Link 12 Link 13 Link 14 Link 15 Link 16 Link 17 Link 18 Link 19 Link 20 Link 21 Link 22 Link 23 Link 24 Link 25 Link 26 Link 27 Link 28 Link 29 Link 30 Link 31 Link 32 Link 33 Link 34 Link 35 Link 36 Link 37 Link 38 Link 39 Link 40

As always, you can email me with questions.

E. J.

chris walrod

I have had my car since April 02. Tomorrow I was planning to call PCNA to register my car (1995) for the recall. I didnt think that they had info regarding the new owner (me). Low and behold, today I received the recall letter from PCNA in the mail.

Now I have to worry about the dealer monkeying around my engine compartment replacing the loom. I guess I should not complain, I was planning to change it on my own dime here in the near future for piece of mind.

The recall states that this will take 6-8 hours for the dealer to do. Is a partial engine drop required for this?

I want to thank everyone that lobbied for this recall. I dont think it would of happened without your hard work.

Chris

deltajetfixer

Chris,

On your '95 you do NOT have to drop the motor. The intake manifolds, heater blower, and alternator have to come off. Underneath the car the "windage trays" will come off and the right side heat exchanger flex-hose as well for starter solenoid connection access.

Yeah, I credit E.J. and his hard work in forcing Porsche to acknowledge their responsibility.

Flying Finn

Thanks E.J for all you hard work on this!

Sachin Misra

EJ. Thankyou very very much! You web-site armed me with all the info to write the letters to Porsche. For the longest time, I thought I was on my own. It's good to see your perseverance finally paid off!

tom_993

Not to dismiss all the effort E.J. has put into this at all, as it’s been tremendous, but I wonder how much of a roll the NHTSA investigation played in this recall? Heck, E.J. even made a major contribution to that, opening a complaint, speaking with the investigator and forwarding all the information he collected from this board. (A number of other people opened complaints and contributed too. Thanks to everyone who did.) When I spoke with the investigator, one of the things he mentioned was the Porsche is very good when it comes to these kinds of things. They cooperate fully and help with the investigation as much as they can, even if the result may cost them a lot of money (like this recall). The NHTSA closed the complaint as they determined fires weren’t an issue (although this surprises me. I sent them my harness for evaluation, and it sure looked like it could start a fire to me), but for Porsche the lack of fires wasn’t enough to close it. They continued with the recall. Perhaps they just don’t want to be sued, or perhaps they’re concerned with the other symptoms enough that it warranted a recall. But it makes me wonder…

Tom
’95 993

In case you’re interested, here’s a bit of history on the NHTSA investigation. There are more threads, this is just a few.

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000819" target="_blank">Update on the wiring harness issue from the NHTSA</a>

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000969" target="_blank">Wiring Harness Information Needed for Database</a>

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=001541" target="_blank">1995 993 Wiring Harness</a>

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=002978" target="_blank">Final Wiring Harness Update - NHTSA Case Closed</a>

Edit: According to this post, the US DOT put some pressure on Porsche:

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=005677" target="_blank">Another Update to the wiring harness issue. (LONG)</a>

E. J. - 993 Alumni

Tom, I played a very small role in a large team effort, but I think you are right to question NHTSA's role in all this.

In light of the new developments over the past 4 weeks, I am not inclined to call the rep (I think Frank was taken off the case) at NHTSA to see what happened. We know NHTSA closed the case in January of this year (the document is on my website) and if they reopened it, I am not aware of it.

It appears that Porsche has conducted the recall in spite of the closed NHTSA investigation - a very noble effort. Too bad it took them 3 years to admit to it.

So like you, I am left wondering the true reasons for this recall, but I am none the less happy with the outcome.

Thanks to all who helped facilitate it.

E. J.

Ray Calvo

E. J., like others I have to comend your persistence in this matter. I am sure it had some not-insignificant contribution to Porsche finally acknowledging that they have a problem.

My car VIN ends in 321696; PCNA acknowledged it's an affected car in my telecon with them a few days ago (and I did get the recall notice). Now to call my dealer and arrange for a formal review and replacement.

armand993

hi guys having my harness replaced monday . very happy to get this behind me. special thanks to ej and all that helped in this matter.. armand <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

993Racer

EJ,

Yu are the man... Thank you for doing this. Most of us spent a lot of Money for our cars and we are passioante about them. This is pretty serious and we wouldnt expect this level of an issue.

I talked to my private mechanic because I refuse to go to the local dealer for Porsche repairs. In all my eforts they have been really poor and all the local guys say stay away from them for Porsche...

He says to ahve it checked out but they wont domuch if it doesnt look serious because it will not pass a QA check at the national level....

ie the returned harness...

What is the adress of your site?
thanks for being so devoted

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D.G..

E.J.

U DA MAN!! I would like to acknowledge all of the time and effort that you put in on our behalf. You went well beyond what most people would do for this type of cause.

I realize there are others who contributed, but in my mind, without your instigation this recall would not have come about.

FYI, I got my recall notice from PCNA early last week, as well as a letter from my local dealer the next day. The dealer (Claridges in Fremont CA) had the car for 3 days to do the work, which was a little long I thought; but was very courteous and didn't give me any grief what so ever. The even called today to make sure that I was completely happy with their service.

Cost to me: $0.00

Like Chris, I was apprehensive about the dealer 'monkeying around my engine compartment' (good description Chris), but everything looks to be in place, and the engine seems to run a little smoother now. Also, the dealer gave me a written lifetime warranty on the work they did. (Covers labor only, non transferable.)

Thank you E.J.

Mark '98 Targa

What recall?

Just kidding. Thanks for linking all the info in one place.

Mark

E. J. - 993 Alumni

UPDATE 12-11-02 You can see this recent thread <a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=006451" target="_blank">here</a>.

Just got the supplemental update from Mike at Fairfield Porsche - thank you Mike.
As always, you can get to the updated page and the file from the main page of my site using the link in my signature.

Note that the cut off date on the harness from the part number sticker is the "DATUM" date and it must be earlier than 05.01.1996 to require a replacement. Note that you do not use the "ZEICH DAT" date. This is the same cut off date for both NA and Turbo cars.

Additionally, they added a part number for the turbo cars. That new part number is: 993.607.016.10

Have fun.

E. J.

tom_993

[quote]Originally posted by E. J.:
<strong>Note that the cut off date on the harness from the part number sticker is the "DATUM" date and it must be earlier than 05.01.1996 to require a replacement. Note that you do not use the "ZEICH DAT" date.
</strong><hr></blockquote>


Just to clarify, do you mean “FERT DATUM” is the relevant date and “ZEICHN DATUM” is not?

E. J. - 993 Alumni

[quote]Originally posted by tom_993:
<strong>Just to clarify, do you mean “FERT DATUM” is the relevant date and “ZEICHN DATUM” is not?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yes. Thanks Tom.

E. J.