mnmblu

John just can't wait till spring, he wants to pass me now.

Adrienne, nice avatar, love your poochie.

jrgordonsenior

Dr. Frankenstein I presume?
No, no you fool. It's Frankensteeeen....
They told me it was Frankenstein.
They were wrong....
JRG

jrgordonsenior

Haven't I already done that????
JRG

Carrera Mike

JRG, Talk to the general manager of that local porsche shop(is it a dealership) and tell him that it was not their place to assume problems. They are paid for PPI which just an inspection and their job is to tell the buyer what they found, not what they think is gonna happen with the car. They were not hired to be a fortune teller! They were hired to find facts.

mnmblu

Ahhh.... when was that, on the frwy or something while I had it on cruise control.

mnmblu

Ah yes, Young Frankenstein, very funny movie.

paradisenb

993s have cruise control? image that, all this time I was feeling guilty thinking my foot was peging the throttle to the floor. What a relief. Its those high tech cush features of the 993.

paradisenb

JR. I think the shop was out of line. Its not their place to opine about the choice a person makes regarding brands or models. They are, however, morally obligated to do a fair evaluation of the particular car brought to them. If that car, yours in this case, has any of these issues they note them on the inspection report. When asked about the items they can quote repair costs. I think it is fair for them to mention these are known issues but, they should also have the wisdom of experience to know not all cars have any of these problems and those that do are in the minority.
From my perspective these guys are not very knowledgeable about this model. Which makes me wonder what on earth are doing repairing Porsches in the first place. Most p-car mechanics will tell you unequioically that the 993 was the best car Porsche ever built.
In layman's terms; The buyer was an uninform idiot. His loss I'm sure.
A cab in LA. Its gonna move.

mnmblu

Randy, just dial er up to WOT and give your foot a break.

Lorenfb

"Talk to the general manager of that local porsche shop(is it a dealership) and tell him that it was not their place to assume problems. They are paid for PPI which just an inspection and their job is to tell the buyer what they found, not what they think is gonna happen with the car." - Carrera Mike -

You gotta be kidding!

How about this for a future event?

Car Buyer:

"Mr. PPI shop owner, my 993 which you PPI'ed last month now needs a valve job
and won't pass an emissions test. As an informed/knowledgeable Porsche shop,
you should have disclosed to me the potential 993 problems which may not have
been detected during a PPI. Right?"

Shop Owner:

"You didn't ask about 'em."

Guess whether the car buyer will use or recommend the shop for a PPI or Porsche
service in the future.

Bottomline: Besides a responsibility to the potential buyer, the shop owner must maintain his shop's reputation which would get "hammered", if he didn't fully inform the buyer.

cooz

will you take $500 and I'll use as a parts car?

JasonAndreas

Who pays for the PPI? The "moral" obligation is to inform the potential buyer of any problems that the car has and those that it will have. How many new 993 owners have driven 150 miles and then had their SAI CEL light up? The shop is covering their own @ss and rightfully so. Unfortunately we've already seen owners disconnect their battery and conveniently forget to disclose the SAI issue when they sold their car.

Carrera Mike

Loren, PPI means Pre Purchase Inspection. Not Pre Purchase PREDICTION. The PPI shop should "inform" him what they found, not what they think is going to happen in the future. When I bought my car and asked a reputable shop for PPI, they showed me their PPI inspection sheet. The first line on it is..."Does not involve internal engine inspection". I'm not insinuating here for the shop to lie to the customer. I'm saying that the shop is not right to scare the customer by saying don't buy this certain model(993) because it's known for CEL.

993Maineiac

It really depends on the tone the shop used with the potential buyer. If it was in line with, "These are some of the proplems that a few of these cars have and you should ask the owner before we take your $," then the buyer wasn't serious in the first place. If it was. "All 993s have these problems sooner or later so you better find out," then IMHO it was completely out of line.

Loren, are you a member? With over 700 posts and such strong opinions you might wish to formally join us.

Al

JohnJL

I read the original post to say the dealer asked the potential buyer if those things have happened or show those symptoms, not that they said those things WOULD happen.

Don't know....none of us were there...