Active Cooling System for C4S
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I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). I cannot get a dealer in the SF bay Area to tell me the cost of installation. Does anyone have any experience with this part? Is this simply a 'snap' in part or is there some integration internally that must be fitted. Please advise....
I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). I cannot get a dealer in the SF bay Area to tell me the cost of installation. Does anyone have any experience with this part? Is this simply a 'snap' in part or is there some integration internally that must be fitted. Please advise....
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Originally posted by acastell:
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I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). I cannot get a dealer in the SF bay Area to tell me the cost of installation. Does anyone have any experience with this part? Is this simply a 'snap' in part or is there some integration internally that must be fitted. Please advise....</STRONG>
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I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). I cannot get a dealer in the SF bay Area to tell me the cost of installation. Does anyone have any experience with this part? Is this simply a 'snap' in part or is there some integration internally that must be fitted. Please advise....</STRONG>
Plug in the connector for the positioning light and reinstall.
Shouldn't take longer than 10 min.
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Originally posted by acastell:
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I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). </STRONG>
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I am attempting to purchase/install the left and right Active Cooling Systems on my C4S (part#s 993 631 980 00(01). </STRONG>
Gert,
Thanks for clarifying what this is. I thought he was trying to add a radiator.
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Are these what you are talking about? The Turbo "S" front lamp assemblies?
If so, installing them by themselves will not provide any additional cooling.
In order to use these for additional brake cooling will require a lot of metal work to install the hoses, and very special rotor cooling ducting.
People usually buy these for the looks.
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If so, installing them by themselves will not provide any additional cooling.
In order to use these for additional brake cooling will require a lot of metal work to install the hoses, and very special rotor cooling ducting.
People usually buy these for the looks.
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Rick is right, to get these things working effectively takes quite a bit of work, making holes in front inner wings etc - problem is, if you ever upgrade the engine and need additional oil coolers, the ducting has to be taken out to fit the coolers in, as I found - but so what, they still look the business and I can't say I've noticed a drop off in brake performance since removal of ducting !
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Originally posted by Rick in Portland:
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In order to use these for additional brake cooling will require a lot of metal work to install the hoses, and very special rotor cooling ducting.
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In order to use these for additional brake cooling will require a lot of metal work to install the hoses, and very special rotor cooling ducting.
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These air ducts just provide a bit more air to the oil cooler and the condenser.
The brake ducts look like this :
![](http://user.online.be/gcar/cpx/p93061.jpg)
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These active cooling system ducts do allow a little extra air into the oil cooler and radiator. If some is good, a little more is better. In this spirit I de-installed the "driving lamp" that comes with the active cooling ducts. As a result I have two extra openings on each side, in contrast to one.
If you want to see what the set up with the ducting to the brakes looks like, obtain the Cargraphics catalog, for pictures. These units are not cheap, and they require lots of work to install, as Rick and others have mentioned.
If you are really interested in added oil cooling, get in touch with Gert for either the Turbo S cooler, about a 20% increase in your cooling capacity, or the monster Cargraphics cooler which has to nearly double the oil cooling capacity.
The Turbo S cooler is about $700, the Cargraphics about $2,400, with about 5 hours of labor to install either one. 5 hours that is, if you know what you are doing.
If you want to see what the set up with the ducting to the brakes looks like, obtain the Cargraphics catalog, for pictures. These units are not cheap, and they require lots of work to install, as Rick and others have mentioned.
If you are really interested in added oil cooling, get in touch with Gert for either the Turbo S cooler, about a 20% increase in your cooling capacity, or the monster Cargraphics cooler which has to nearly double the oil cooling capacity.
The Turbo S cooler is about $700, the Cargraphics about $2,400, with about 5 hours of labor to install either one. 5 hours that is, if you know what you are doing.
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Originally posted by Gert:
<STRONG>The brake ducts look like this :
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<STRONG>The brake ducts look like this :
![](http://user.online.be/gcar/cpx/p93061.jpg)
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Originally posted by E. J.:
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Gert, do you sell these and do they come with the requisite hoses and hats etc? I know about the installation and cutting etc, but am wondering what your kit is exactly. </STRONG>
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Gert, do you sell these and do they come with the requisite hoses and hats etc? I know about the installation and cutting etc, but am wondering what your kit is exactly. </STRONG>
The parts from the factory (as shown in the picture of the black 993) is an air intake system to feed extra air to the oil cooler and the conderser, (just like the TTS air intakes).
Unlike the TTS air intakes, the shape of this intake allows it to connect hoses to the air intakes which can be used for brake cooling.
Like you said, there is not really a complete kit with hoses and outlets available from Porsche, only the intake parts and the foglights.
Techart offers a kit with foglights and brake ducts that looks exactely the same as the one from Porsche, but this kits comes with hoses and outlets.
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Originally posted by Gert:
<STRONG>Techart offers a kit with foglights and brake ducts that looks exactely the same as the one from Porsche, but this kits comes with hoses and outlets.</STRONG>
<STRONG>Techart offers a kit with foglights and brake ducts that looks exactely the same as the one from Porsche, but this kits comes with hoses and outlets.</STRONG>
Thanx for the help.
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Originally posted by E. J.:
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Gert, how much cutting is involved and how bad is the price on the techart kit?</STRONG>
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Gert, how much cutting is involved and how bad is the price on the techart kit?</STRONG>
![](http://www.techart.de/Techart_Katalog%20993/Neue%20Bilder%20groß/BKS4_.jpg)
The complete kit is $650 + shipping
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Thank you to Gert and all for your responses.
For those that may purchase the vents, one added thing to consider is painting. The part is not painted, so there is the added cost/burden of getting the vents sprayed.
Thanks again...
For those that may purchase the vents, one added thing to consider is painting. The part is not painted, so there is the added cost/burden of getting the vents sprayed.
Thanks again...