OTTOMAN308

My shop is in San Carlos, Avenue Auto Service, we have been in business since 1954. The only completes we usually do are Porsches, usually referals from European Performance in Millbrae. The paint job I am doing will run around $6k; no bondo needed, materials alone are over $1200, the removal of trim is a royal pain in the ***, and a good 12-15 hrs color sand and buff. Our head painter used to work for PPG and has over 20 yrs experience. After it is painted I am going to wait a week before polishing, let it cure, then polish it in stages, doing it this way eliminates any swirls (especially since my color is Midnight Blue). If anyone has any questions about paint or body feel free to email, thanks for the responses.

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Aaron

Phil

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I have a 95, and recently I purchased a ROW Euro front cover. In doing so I decided to refinish the hood and fenders being that the car has 8 yrs of rock chips. Now I am going to just paint the whole car, all trim removed, no body work, european ppg paint/clear, the works just scuff the rest and shoot. It seems on this board everyone wants a car with no paint work, but a car that has been driven is going to have chips. I plan on keeping the car at least another 4 years. My question is; Would you rather have a car that has original paint w/ chips etc, or one that had no bodywork done but a high quality re-paint, if both were the same price? Just curious

Aaron

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95 993 Carrera 2
94 Land Rover

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" My shop is in San Carlos, Avenue Auto Service, we have been in business since 1954. The only completes we usually do are Porsches, usually referals from European Performance in Millbrae. The paint job I am doing will run around $6k; no bondo needed, materials alone are over $1200, the removal of trim is a royal pain in the ***, and a good 12-15 hrs color sand and buff. Our head painter used to work for PPG and has over 20 yrs experience. After it is painted I am going to wait a week before polishing, let it cure, then polish it in stages, doing it this way eliminates any swirls (especially since my color is Midnight Blue). If anyone has any questions about paint or body feel free to email, thanks for the responses.

Aaron

Aaron

Phil

Aaron,
are You attemping to "drum" up busness here???

If so, You may need to "retake" that class on Marketing 101, You have failed, In a large way!

OTTOMAN308

Actually I don't want to do completes they are money losers. I can do 15 small jobs and make more money. Trust me I don't want any, bumpers blending hood and fenders are fine. We only do a few a year, during the slow season.

OTTOMAN308

By the way I was a business major in college and actually failed marketing 101, switched to economics, and was much happier.

Phil

Ottoman308. I am confused? your first post was....." have a 95, and recently I purchased a ROW Euro front cover. In doing so I decided to refinish the hood and fenders being that the car has 8 yrs of rock chips. Now I am going to just paint the whole car, all trim removed, no body work, european ppg paint/clear, the works just scuff the rest and shoot. It seems on this board everyone wants a car with no paint work, but a car that has been driven is going to have chips. I plan on keeping the car at least another 4 years. My question is; Would you rather have a car that has original paint w/ chips etc, or one that had no bodywork done but a high quality re-paint, if both were the same price? Just curious

Aaron

Your next post was "My shop is in San Carlos, Avenue Auto Service, we have been in business since 1954. The only completes we usually do are Porsches, usually referals from European Performance in Millbrae. The paint job I am doing will run around $6k; no bondo needed, materials alone are over $1200, the removal of trim is a royal pain in the ***, and a good 12-15 hrs color sand and buff. Our head painter used to work for PPG and has over 20 yrs experience. After it is painted I am going to wait a week before polishing, let it cure, then polish it in stages, doing it this way eliminates any swirls (especially since my color is Midnight Blue). If anyone has any questions about paint or body feel free to email, thanks for the responses.

Aaron

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Are you Spaming this board?

Arthur Del Mundo

Actually he was not spamming the board as I have asked him where his shop was and how much it usually costs to do a complete 993 paint job, just out of curiosity as I am in the same boat as Aaron with my 97K miles car and rock chips. Probably in a year or 2 I may want just repaint the whole car, since I will probably keep it for a long time anyways (prob 10 years unless I get a 993TT). Hopefully I don't mean to get Aaron into any trouble or look bad in any way. Hopefully there was no deliberate offense in any way.

Phil

have a 95, and recently I purchased a ROW Euro front cover. In doing so I decided to refinish the hood and fenders being that the car has 8 yrs of rock chips. Now I am going to just paint the whole car, all trim removed, no body work, european ppg paint/clear, the works just scuff the rest and shoot. It seems on this board everyone wants a car with no paint work, but a car that has been driven is going to have chips. I plan on keeping the car at least another 4 years. My question is; Would you rather have a car that has original paint w/ chips etc, or one that had no bodywork done but a high quality re-paint, if both were the same price? Just curious

1st post!

My shop is in San Carlos, Avenue Auto Service, we have been in business since 1954. The only completes we usually do are Porsches, usually referals from European Performance in Millbrae. The paint job I am doing will run around $6k; no bondo needed, materials alone are over $1200, the removal of trim is a royal pain in the ***, and a good 12-15 hrs color sand and buff. Our head painter used to work for PPG and has over 20 yrs experience. After it is painted I am going to wait a week before polishing, let it cure, then polish it in stages, doing it this way eliminates any swirls (especially since my color is Midnight Blue). If anyone has any questions about paint or body feel free to email, thanks for the responses.

2nd post!!!

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Harold

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by OTTOMAN308:
<strong>The car has about 64k on it, and the hood and fenders are pretty bad (we would notice, the average joe would not). I figured why have half the car look nice and shiny. It doesn't hurt that I have my own body shop. I think I am going to take pictures once the car is torn down for proof. I am also adding some 18 in SSR GT 3 wheels. After it is all done I'll post some before and after pics.

Aaron</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Phil,

The above was the second quote. I think we should cut the guy some slack.

Harold

...and his 3rd post was in response to Arthur's direct query to him....

Caveman

Just in case anyone is still talking about paint... As long as a paint job is done well and is documented I don't see any harm in it. With our crap roads cars get chipped up pretty quickly. Throw in a few minor scrapes/idiots opening doors on you and vandals and you can easily find yourself with a scruffy car. I'm getting my nose replaced and taking the opportunity to have undone some not very good touch-ups as well. My appointed coachworks is a Porsche restoration specialist who are so fanatical about what they do they often do extra stuff (at no charge) purely because they think it will look better! So I have no worries about having a strangely immaculate car afterwards. Having said that I have taken photos of the car beforehand and will take some after shots - all with the same film - to show that it's purely cosmetic reasons that are resulting in the paint-job.

Cheers,

David
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GTR 993

I had splitters and a rear spoiler put on and had my car painted through the hood and fenders and through the rear quarters. I did however take alot of before and after pictures with dates just to reassure a buyer if and when I sell that there were no accidents.

I am more than happy with the new paint job. It is amazing how much better my car looks. My car is polar silver and I was also afraid the spoilers would not match so this was a must for me to have a car that matched. Respraying for rock chips is risky with a color like polar silver I have seen that and it rarely matches.

In any case I wouldn't worry about the paint if your getting a different front bumper cover most of the buyers that worry about repainting want a completely original car. I am well beyond that.

GTR 993

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Ray Calvo

Personally, I would not repaint.

- Repaints are softer than OE, so more subject to chips. YOU can never bake a repaint the way the factory does it.

- I have seen very few 911 repaints done where when you walk around the car, it does not SAY "repaint". The fender to top cowl point is the most obvious; very hard to do a quality job around that plastic filler piece.

- YOu'll NEVER get your money back!

Whenever I see a repaint, I would automatically think it's due to a wreck - no matter what the owner would say.

OTTOMAN308

I am not spamming this board, so Phil back off. I personally don't care if anyone ever brings their car to my shop. All I wanted was some input for later on when I eventually sell my car. I have debated painting it for sometime, the post about the cost was in response to an inquiry, maybe I should have emailed it separate. I enjoy reading this board, and would like to contribute. From my personal experience just because we own a Porsche that we can get ripped off from auto and body repair facilities, which doesn't need to be the case. Many times I have played dumb and taken my car to other shops for mechanical and body estimates and amazed the number of times they try to rip me off (dealers especially). My only goal is to help, not drum up any business.

Aaron