Arrwin

How can you tell if you have full or partial leather seats? I recently Lexol'd my partial leather seats (I think), but couldn't really tell which parts of the seats were leather vs. vinyl.

It looks like only the preforated parts are leather to me.

Here's a picture of these full leather seats that look exactly like mine. I have a '96 C4S.

(Chris...hope you don't mind me borrowing your pic). Thanks!

Mark in Baltimore

Arrwin,

The back of a partial leather seat is made of vinyl. It looks and feels different from a full leather one.

If in doubt, take a soldering gun or match head and see if it melts.

Arrwin

But the entire front of the partial leather seats are leather including the side bolsters and head rest?

I originally used the leather conditioner on those sections, but it didn't seem like it absorbed the product the perforated sections did so I assumed they were vinyl, which I ended up using Vinylex on.

Thanks!

Chaos

The match idea,very good then your insurance company can buy you new ones and the invoice will help you remember !

vjd3

The entire front surface of the seat is leather ... it's sewn to the vinyl, which is what the "real" sides (i.e., where the recline and seat controls are) and back of the seat is made of. So, the top and bottom bolsters are leather, as are the perforated seating areas. You can tell by the grain. On a full-leather car, everything is leather.

Vic
95 C4 cab

ceboyd

lol.. it's o.k... you can steal my photo...

BUT it's the back you should look at... is it matching and smooth like this:

ceboyd

..OR does the texture and look change like this:

vjd3

The first set looks like full leather, the second appears to be partial. A good test is to indent the material with your fingernail in an unobtrusive location; the vinyl will "remember" its original shape, the leather will hold the mark. The vinyl is also very impervious to scratches in the surface color, the leather is not.

Vic
95 C4 cab

Arrwin

Thanks for the help guys. Chris...thanks for the comparo pics.

What about the shifter boot and door panels? Seems like the strip where the speaker and window switches are leather and the rest is vinyl??



On the steering wheel...I believe the rim is leather and the airbag cover is vinyl?



I'm going have to take a look at it later. This gives me an excuse to "visit" the car today in my garage after work.

Thanks to Truspeed for the usage of their pics.

PedroNole

We've got the same seats....leather fronts and seating area and vinyl sides and backs. doors are vinyl too. Here's a question for the board, did they make leather for the doors in '95-'98?

ceboyd

yup.. full leather was a factory order thing.. .everything could be custom ordered to be leather instead of vinyl

we just happen to have 2 sets of 993 seats... one partial leather, one full leather ....sellin 'em both (got room to store one set anyway) so hopefully one of the 2 sets will sell soon

jdoc7

Rear seats are all vinyl too.

Chris C.

Now you should get the silicone from the vinylex out of the leather pores on the front of your seat. See www.colorplus.com for their leather FAQ, and buy some of their cleaner and Soffener to use on the smooth leather that is not absorbing the leather conditioner. Unless you have full leather, or a Carrera S, the door strip (and the entire door panel) is vinyl.

Rob 97 993c2

whats the story on a TT? i assume EVERYTHING is leather?? is that correct..