After 12 years, a change is necessary.
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BTW, what size staples? Need to tackle that task at some point and aside from the mention and photos, haven't seen anyone elaborate on the actual stapling process or staple sizes. Presume they pierce straight through and then on the underside you bend each one over with a screwdriver?
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Looking good Nick, well done.
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BTW, what size staples? Need to tackle that task at some point and aside from the mention and photos, haven't seen anyone elaborate on the actual stapling process or staple sizes. Presume they pierce straight through and then on the underside you bend each one over with a screwdriver?
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A thing of beauty. Looks awesome!
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Tires are ordered....
BTW, what size staples? Need to tackle that task at some point and aside from the mention and photos, haven't seen anyone elaborate on the actual stapling process or staple sizes. Presume they pierce straight through and then on the underside you bend each one over with a screwdriver?
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Nope. I loved the S lip for twelve years but I needed a change... The smooth and correct look of the ROW turbo bumper with the TA ducts is such a nice look IMO and the S lip eliminates the very curvaceous vents of the WB bumper, which I also love.
As always, I truly appreciate your help and skillz LB.
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Finally got the tires mounted to the 184's today. I knew that the wheel specs were going to be tight with the aggressive suspension on my 993 and I'd need to rely on the tire sidewall profiles to 'snug them in'... The front's are tight - I may need to consider 225's instead of 235's or play with ride height/camber (prefer not to). The front tire sidewall is much more square than I had expected - especially in relation to the rear. After installing I went for a quick drive and heard/felt no rubbing on front or rear - which was a surprise because you'd struggle to fit a Rizla paper between the front tire and lip!
So, a change is what I wanted and a change is most certainly what I got - they are so different in so many ways to the 'jewelry' look of the Speedlines. While they are the same diameter the design of these 184's make them appear taller - especially on the front with the flatter profile. It's hard to capture the dramatic contours of the rear spokes in the pictures but IRL they are 'voluptuous' and enhance the rear end of the WB 993 in a different way than the step lip / deep dish construction of the Speedlines. The white gold/grey color is a fantastic contrast to the Arena red paint IMO - and I do plan to have the brake calipers refinished in either dark grey or black as I have never liked red calipers against AR.
The moral of this story is that the Speedlines aren't going anywhere... I just needed a refresh on my 993 and I'm happy with the changes so far. I might continue with having my HBS seats and rocker panels painted...
Here are some pics I took this afternoon:
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So, a change is what I wanted and a change is most certainly what I got - they are so different in so many ways to the 'jewelry' look of the Speedlines. While they are the same diameter the design of these 184's make them appear taller - especially on the front with the flatter profile. It's hard to capture the dramatic contours of the rear spokes in the pictures but IRL they are 'voluptuous' and enhance the rear end of the WB 993 in a different way than the step lip / deep dish construction of the Speedlines. The white gold/grey color is a fantastic contrast to the Arena red paint IMO - and I do plan to have the brake calipers refinished in either dark grey or black as I have never liked red calipers against AR.
The moral of this story is that the Speedlines aren't going anywhere... I just needed a refresh on my 993 and I'm happy with the changes so far. I might continue with having my HBS seats and rocker panels painted...
Here are some pics I took this afternoon:
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The Speedlines are back on the car while I wait for some very odd sized hub-centric rings. The Champion RS184's were too tight with the 235 fronts and the original 3mm spacers that they came with all around. I removed the spacers and switched to 225 section tires - however the 3mm spacers are hub-centric so I needed to find rings to fill the voids - I guess 71.5mm ID to 79.5mm OD are not exactly common... They should be here from Japan in a day or two!??
Meanwhile, I had the car polished and ceramic coated (along with the 500e that I just pulled out of long term storage).
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Meanwhile, I had the car polished and ceramic coated (along with the 500e that I just pulled out of long term storage).
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Hats off on job well done. (And change is always good).
Those mg wheels are fantastic and the color of the wheels really sits well with the Arena Red.
Personally I think the «OE periode correctness» of the speedlines will forever be unmatched, but these mg wheels do present as a good alternative.
Good effort on the install of bumper rubber gaskets. It seems to me that gaskets often are installed incorrect and loosen once the bumper is threaded on or they end up with the rubber sitting too high between the panels (mounted too high in the bumper frame).
You just nailed the install and the front looks so smooth and factory with everything installed.
Great looking car 👏🏻
PS, have you thought about playing with adjusting front wheel camber to get the 235s fitted?
Those mg wheels are fantastic and the color of the wheels really sits well with the Arena Red.
Personally I think the «OE periode correctness» of the speedlines will forever be unmatched, but these mg wheels do present as a good alternative.
Good effort on the install of bumper rubber gaskets. It seems to me that gaskets often are installed incorrect and loosen once the bumper is threaded on or they end up with the rubber sitting too high between the panels (mounted too high in the bumper frame).
You just nailed the install and the front looks so smooth and factory with everything installed.
Great looking car 👏🏻
PS, have you thought about playing with adjusting front wheel camber to get the 235s fitted?
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Cheers G. Hope all is well in your world.
Thanks for your observations and feedback. The true colour of the Champion wheels is hard to capture with the iphone - it is quite stunning against the arena red.
Adding some camber might have allowed enough room, however I really don't want to mess with the suspension geometry to squeeze the 235's in - the car's feel is spot on since we did the the ride height, corner balance and proper alignment to it several years ago. The 225's look as though they will fit perfectly with the slight stretch to the sidewall (I prefer the look also).
The rings arrived today, so I'll swap the wheels again in a few days.
Hats off on job well done. (And change is always good).
Those mg wheels are fantastic and the color of the wheels really sits well with the Arena Red.
Personally I think the «OE periode correctness» of the speedlines will forever be unmatched, but these mg wheels do present as a good alternative.
Good effort on the install of bumper rubber gaskets. It seems to me that gaskets often are installed incorrect and loosen once the bumper is threaded on or they end up with the rubber sitting too high between the panels (mounted too high in the bumper frame).
You just nailed the install and the front looks so smooth and factory with everything installed.
Great looking car 👏🏻
PS, have you thought about playing with adjusting front wheel camber to get the 235s fitted?
Those mg wheels are fantastic and the color of the wheels really sits well with the Arena Red.
Personally I think the «OE periode correctness» of the speedlines will forever be unmatched, but these mg wheels do present as a good alternative.
Good effort on the install of bumper rubber gaskets. It seems to me that gaskets often are installed incorrect and loosen once the bumper is threaded on or they end up with the rubber sitting too high between the panels (mounted too high in the bumper frame).
You just nailed the install and the front looks so smooth and factory with everything installed.
Great looking car 👏🏻
PS, have you thought about playing with adjusting front wheel camber to get the 235s fitted?
Adding some camber might have allowed enough room, however I really don't want to mess with the suspension geometry to squeeze the 235's in - the car's feel is spot on since we did the the ride height, corner balance and proper alignment to it several years ago. The 225's look as though they will fit perfectly with the slight stretch to the sidewall (I prefer the look also).
The rings arrived today, so I'll swap the wheels again in a few days.