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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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I'm thinking about building a 993 race car. It would be a long term project & I will buy a second car to build it. Since I'm going to strip the car down I don't care about interior & the paint doesn't have to be perfect. Because it will be a long term project & driving it will keep my interest in it the engine needs to be good. But my question is what is the most important thing to look for in a project car. I may have already answered my question buy I wanted some opinoins.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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To help us stop being continally jolted from our avatar slumber from blinking simulated LEDs, you should just buy DJ's car and be done with it.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Buy someone else's project, unless you don't care about the money you WILL LOSE in the end when you sell it. And trust me, building a race car is probably a little easier but relying on other people to rebuild a car and taking 4 years to do so, is no fun.

Oh, and asnwer this question honestly to yourself, do you have the patience to really make it a LONG term project? Because, you will always find that "great" deal that you just have to get right then and there.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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There are some interesting ads in the classfieds of Autoweek. While there are usually a bunch of $100K+ cup cars, there are often some lessor, but interesting homebuilts. I agree with the above... don't try to build your own if you can find something suitable that's already been done.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Agree buy someone elses project. let me know if you are interested in mine...

For what it costs to take a street car to a competitive race car you should 1 either buy someone elses project, 2. Buy a 993 Cup car, 3. Buy a Euro RSCS.

BTDT...
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Back by popular demand:

Don't sink a bunch of money into a car that you will never recoup. Trust me. Trust Greg.

<---- Buy this car!
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by DJ:
<strong>Back by popular demand:

Don't sink a bunch of money into a car that you will never recoup. Trust me. Trust Greg.

&lt;---- Buy this car!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Ha Ha Ha, where the hell were you guys 2 years ago??? Oh wait I think someone did tell me to buy someone else's race car. Now, 30K later, it is still a freakin' Cab (but damm fast!)

Short story on building your own race car:
Busted knuckles, lots and lots of money, did I mention money, first name basis with your UPS and FexEx driver, checking Euro vs. Dollar for the elusive parts from Germany, power buyer on Ebay, more money.... Should I go on???
I cant believe someone has not bought DJ's car.
DJ, maybe you should send it out to the Midwest,I could drive, er, sell it for you ( there may be too many Porsches in CA.)
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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If this might help, found a car on Autotrader.com that looked like someone's project 993 and they are selling it. Might be worth looking at:

http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/v...ddress=94583&s earch_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1995&color=&car_year=1995
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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Ouch apparently you'll have to copy/paste that link as it only shows 2 lines of it as clickable.

It seems like a good deal for $39K and I bet you can do more to it.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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Nevermind you can actually click the link and it'll get you to the ad. I just tried it now.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 02:37 AM
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Ahhhemm...maybe I should not be speaking right now since I did not hear the voices here that say "buy a ready made track car" <img border="0" alt="[icon107]" title="" src="graemlins/icon107.gif" />

Well while I would have loved to get my hands on DJ's car the fact is that track cars are usually expensive to buy. Only now I start seeing cars in the 30's with some mods on like this black car and the white D stock class car on the Rennlist classifieds... While you will sink the money anyway into the car, it will come on your own time and while you can afford it. Having to buy an expensive track car worth over 50K is a financial burden if you want to keep a street 993 as well. So while it would be wise to gain on a ready car in most cases it is very difficult to cough so much cash or have such high monthly payments... I'm the example of this case... got a cheap lengthy loan and the cash/credit go into some mods, thank God for you guys and ebay... This way I can race now and not still dream about it...

So with that said I will offer some of my must hads for the project:
1. Straight chassis, no accidents.
2. sound engine and tranny
3. Search, search, search. PCA classifieds, Rennlist classifieds everything! Actually on the Rennlist classifieds you can fill out a wanted form and that goes to the dealers,brokers affiliated. I got plenty leads for cars that were not even advertised this way!! As a matter of fact my car came through a lead from a broker in Florida...

Finally I agree that these two cars in the 30's would be a good deal! You must figure out about 5-10 grand on mods to make the car D stock class track worthy.
Given the fact that you can get a 993 close to 30grand and add the above mods, then 38K or 39K for ready cars are a GREAT deal...
I have seen upclose the white D stock class car on the Rennlist classifieds, this guy wants to unload the car and he includes the trailer as well on the deal! I wish I would have known a month ago...
The car run last weekend on the same track as I did it looked good and sounded good although I was a bit faster than him

Good luck! Its FUN!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Kristoffer,

When ever you get it, let me know, I can help tinkering with the car it if you like.

Oh, and when you need a fast co-driver (you've seen me at track), I'm available. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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Like Greg said a 993 Cup car. To me there is not even any question about it. You cannot build 1/2 a Cup car for what you get buy a real one for.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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JC,
What are you racing next year, or is it this year?
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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I saw a Supercup car (not 993 but a 964) on consignment in a shop in Pleasanton, CA. It's a 1992 Carrera Euro Spec RS. Here is the link if you're interested:

<a href="http://www.classiccarsltd.com/modules/auto/detail.php?id=20" target="_blank">http://www.classiccarsltd.com/modules/auto/detail.php?id=20</a>
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