I think it’s time to move on from my 993 and go to the dark side (water-cooled)
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Onami,
Don't do it, don't even consider it. Jettisoning the Carrera from the fleet is akin to turning one's back on the family dog or one of the kids. . Don't do it. .The "smile on your face" is the many 993 attributes showing their wares. .
On a pragmatic note: I would cringe being in today's 993 Carrera Coupe market. . All the very best !!
Don't do it, don't even consider it. Jettisoning the Carrera from the fleet is akin to turning one's back on the family dog or one of the kids. . Don't do it. .The "smile on your face" is the many 993 attributes showing their wares. .
On a pragmatic note: I would cringe being in today's 993 Carrera Coupe market. . All the very best !!
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I’d keep 993, and get a 991.1 or 991.2. Hard to ever sell a 993… total classic (despite the age issues of the car).
Another option is a 997, had a 997 C2S for a long time - amazing car.
Also, FWIW, i felt like my 993 didn’t become “dated” until I moved into a 991. Still felt very relevant in the 996 and 997 eras…
Another option is a 997, had a 997 C2S for a long time - amazing car.
Also, FWIW, i felt like my 993 didn’t become “dated” until I moved into a 991. Still felt very relevant in the 996 and 997 eras…
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Having gone through this exactly a year ago, I completely understand where you're at Mark. My final justification was simple: I've LOVED 911s of all kinds since I was 10-12 years old. I started 911 ownership in what I considered then to be the best 911 I could afford, my Midnight Blue 1995 993.I owned that car from 2006, when I paid a HIGH $49K CDN for it, to spring of 2018 when I sold it during a downsizing. That left me with my black 97 993 which I had traded a 2002 996 straight across for in late 2008. I wanted to try a different flavour of 911. I also knew that I wasn't using the 993 much at all in recent years. It too was sold and in all honesty, I do not have any regrets. Between the two 993s, I had driven them about 70000km/45000miles, and enjoyed them a LOT. Life is short, rather than reading the same book over and over I picked up a different one. If the opportunity arises to own another 993, preferably one of my previous cars, then I will. Enjoy all the experiences life has to offer.
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In the exact opposite situation. Back in '03 I was looking for a lightly used 993, but got such a good deal on a new 996 that i went that way instead. Had it for 18 years until the misses convinced me to get something new. Got a new 992 in January 2022, kept it 6 months and traded it in for a new GT4, which is an amazing car. I just found the 992 to be too big, and not engaging enough. I love the GT4, it's an amazing car and much more similar in feel to the older 911s than a 992, but there a couple of low mileage 993s floating around locally and I just keep looking at them.. It's very tempting, but at 61 do i want to get back into the vintage car thing, or just hop in and turn the key.
I guess my only advice is if you decide to get something new, spend some seat time in the 992 and the 718, maybe go down the the porsche experience, you may be surprised where you end up.
I guess my only advice is if you decide to get something new, spend some seat time in the 992 and the 718, maybe go down the the porsche experience, you may be surprised where you end up.
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I love my 991.1 GTS for long distance driving on highways which is a chore in my 993. Both are MTs so both are enjoyable.
But the look, the smell and the feel of the 993 are just not replaceable : it literally is a time capsule. When I am tired with driving the 993 (clutch and brake pedals are quite hard), I am happy to get behind the wheel of the 991.1.
And then, I am dissappointed because the ride is too harsh compared to the 993 and the steering feel numb/artificial. So I get back inside the 993...
You catch my drift, I am rotating driving the 993 and the 991.
What's better than a 911 in one's garage if you ask me? An aircooled one and a watercooled one.
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I don't think I could do it!
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Thanks for all of the comments guys…it’s great to hear everyone’s opinions. For now, I’m just going to hold the course. I’m not in a panic to do anything.
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Getting ready for retirement takes some planning for sure and I do agree accumulating stuff, including cars, can become less appealing as we age........I am 69 now and been retired for 5 years, this time, as I had a trial retirement previously for 5 years and went back to work for 5 years in between...
It is interesting topic posed by the OP and I thought I would share my thoughts relative to retirement and the cars I chose to keep.......I am glad I kept my 993, that I have had for over 24 years......
When I retired I was blessed and through my hard work had a Cayenne GTS V8, 991.2 GT3 and the 993 cab 6MT.
The really important and critical one key thing when retiring is having multiple hobbies you are really passionate about. Obviously cars and Porsches are some of mine.
When I retired, I thought I would use the GT3 for a monthly track day in retirement, but thought again after a few months about thrashing a $180K car around a track and the cost of maintenance, and the possibility of crashing it, as I raced against bettering my lap times, etc......
Due to the value retention of the GT3 and my plan to eventually gift myself with a Turbo S, after 40 years of work in retirement...the GT3 and Cayenne were traded in on the Turbo S and I kept the 993 along with my wife's Highlander, as the dog carrying car.
I am now glad I kept the 993, instead of the GT3, because with the spare time in retirement and my ability to do some of the easier DIY stuff on the 993, it has been the right decision as a hobby car. I always kept the car in tip top shape, even when it was my daily years ago, and now the passion to keep it pristine is even more rewarding......the TTS is the daily now.......
Naturally I also drive a lot less in retirement ...about 5,000 miles a year and make sure to drive the 993 at least once a week to keep it ready to go......Having 2 911s works for me and ones that are so different in nature.....everyone has different needs in retirement, and having a plan really helps....amazing how many people don't think about the reality of it, until its there.........
It is interesting topic posed by the OP and I thought I would share my thoughts relative to retirement and the cars I chose to keep.......I am glad I kept my 993, that I have had for over 24 years......
When I retired I was blessed and through my hard work had a Cayenne GTS V8, 991.2 GT3 and the 993 cab 6MT.
The really important and critical one key thing when retiring is having multiple hobbies you are really passionate about. Obviously cars and Porsches are some of mine.
When I retired, I thought I would use the GT3 for a monthly track day in retirement, but thought again after a few months about thrashing a $180K car around a track and the cost of maintenance, and the possibility of crashing it, as I raced against bettering my lap times, etc......
Due to the value retention of the GT3 and my plan to eventually gift myself with a Turbo S, after 40 years of work in retirement...the GT3 and Cayenne were traded in on the Turbo S and I kept the 993 along with my wife's Highlander, as the dog carrying car.
I am now glad I kept the 993, instead of the GT3, because with the spare time in retirement and my ability to do some of the easier DIY stuff on the 993, it has been the right decision as a hobby car. I always kept the car in tip top shape, even when it was my daily years ago, and now the passion to keep it pristine is even more rewarding......the TTS is the daily now.......
Naturally I also drive a lot less in retirement ...about 5,000 miles a year and make sure to drive the 993 at least once a week to keep it ready to go......Having 2 911s works for me and ones that are so different in nature.....everyone has different needs in retirement, and having a plan really helps....amazing how many people don't think about the reality of it, until its there.........
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Getting ready for retirement takes some planning for sure and I do agree accumulating stuff, including cars, can become less appealing as we age........I am 69 now and been retired for 5 years, this time, as I had a trial retirement previously for 5 years and went back to work for 5 years in between...
It is interesting topic posed by the OP and I thought I would share my thoughts relative to retirement and the cars I chose to keep.......I am glad I kept my 993, that I have had for over 24 years......
When I retired I was blessed and through my hard work had a Cayenne GTS V8, 991.2 GT3 and the 993 cab 6MT.
The really important and critical one key thing when retiring is having multiple hobbies you are really passionate about. Obviously cars and Porsches are some of mine.
When I retired, I thought I would use the GT3 for a monthly track day in retirement, but thought again after a few months about thrashing a $180K car around a track and the cost of maintenance, and the possibility of crashing it, as I raced against bettering my lap times, etc......
Due to the value retention of the GT3 and my plan to eventually gift myself with a Turbo S, after 40 years of work in retirement...the GT3 and Cayenne were traded in on the Turbo S and I kept the 993 along with my wife's Highlander, as the dog carrying car.
I am now glad I kept the 993, instead of the GT3, because with the spare time in retirement and my ability to do some of the easier DIY stuff on the 993, it has been the right decision as a hobby car. I always kept the car in tip top shape, even when it was my daily years ago, and now the passion to keep it pristine is even more rewarding......the TTS is the daily now.......
Naturally I also drive a lot less in retirement ...about 5,000 miles a year and make sure to drive the 993 at least once a week to keep it ready to go......Having 2 911s works for me and ones that are so different in nature.....everyone has different needs in retirement, and having a plan really helps....amazing how many people don't think about the reality of it, until its there.........
It is interesting topic posed by the OP and I thought I would share my thoughts relative to retirement and the cars I chose to keep.......I am glad I kept my 993, that I have had for over 24 years......
When I retired I was blessed and through my hard work had a Cayenne GTS V8, 991.2 GT3 and the 993 cab 6MT.
The really important and critical one key thing when retiring is having multiple hobbies you are really passionate about. Obviously cars and Porsches are some of mine.
When I retired, I thought I would use the GT3 for a monthly track day in retirement, but thought again after a few months about thrashing a $180K car around a track and the cost of maintenance, and the possibility of crashing it, as I raced against bettering my lap times, etc......
Due to the value retention of the GT3 and my plan to eventually gift myself with a Turbo S, after 40 years of work in retirement...the GT3 and Cayenne were traded in on the Turbo S and I kept the 993 along with my wife's Highlander, as the dog carrying car.
I am now glad I kept the 993, instead of the GT3, because with the spare time in retirement and my ability to do some of the easier DIY stuff on the 993, it has been the right decision as a hobby car. I always kept the car in tip top shape, even when it was my daily years ago, and now the passion to keep it pristine is even more rewarding......the TTS is the daily now.......
Naturally I also drive a lot less in retirement ...about 5,000 miles a year and make sure to drive the 993 at least once a week to keep it ready to go......Having 2 911s works for me and ones that are so different in nature.....everyone has different needs in retirement, and having a plan really helps....amazing how many people don't think about the reality of it, until its there.........
makes a lot of sense from someone a few years behind you. Something to think about.
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So a few years ago I purchased my 993 from its original owner, an 82 yo gynecologist from Southern California. He only drove it 16,800 miles in the twenty something years he owned it.
What he did was ‘save’ it for me. I’ve put about 9000 miles on the car since taking ownership, while bringing the car back to better than new condition.
I’ll never sell it. My 24 yo son is a very polished kid, an old soul who understands and appreciates classic things. He’s been egging me to put his initials, OMB on the 993 license plate lol. He also appreciates my vintage submariner watch, purchased the year he was born. He has a huge fascination with watch collecting…. and recently managed to get his hands on a brand new Pepsi, not an easy thing to do these days.
The 992 is the first contemporary Porsche that has caught my eye. I’d consider purchasing one, but to park along side the vintage car.
What he did was ‘save’ it for me. I’ve put about 9000 miles on the car since taking ownership, while bringing the car back to better than new condition.
I’ll never sell it. My 24 yo son is a very polished kid, an old soul who understands and appreciates classic things. He’s been egging me to put his initials, OMB on the 993 license plate lol. He also appreciates my vintage submariner watch, purchased the year he was born. He has a huge fascination with watch collecting…. and recently managed to get his hands on a brand new Pepsi, not an easy thing to do these days.
The 992 is the first contemporary Porsche that has caught my eye. I’d consider purchasing one, but to park along side the vintage car.
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The 992 is a beautiful car. I find myself attracted to it in a way no other water cooled Porsche has to date. Don’t even need any of the fancy variants. An ‘S’ with the manual is perfect to drive at will for 4 or 5 years until it gets traded for Porsche number next.
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