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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by caffeineninja
It's weird that these aren't on the US website - the 993 doesn't come up in the product search list, but the model # is PORGP01, I think.
https://www.ohlins.eu/en/products/au...or-gp01--6188/
Ohlins moved their European production facility over the last few months. They told me that their production of the 964 kits has been put on hold until they are caught up on some other projects. I assume it is the same with the 993 kit. I was able to source a 964 R&T kit from a US distributor that had one left.

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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 07:58 PM
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Do the Ohlins require rebuild sooner than the Bilsteins?
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Old Apr 29, 2023 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 90decibel
I am not expert and am learning myself. Assuming shocks are adjustable I can’t think of any reason you wouldn’t be able to tune them to your liking by choosing appropriate spring rates and changing compression/rebound settings. Maybe also throw sway bars into the mix to get completely lost in the options 🙂

In other words, I don’t believe this question is even valid “Which one is better for street driving Ohlis or MCS”. I’m pretty sure both are just fine as long as they are setup for it.

Probably a better question is what spring rates to pick for street driven 993s and how to match shock settings to the spring rates. My 2c.
Good advice here. Are you running on 18” wheels? Has the car benefitted from any weight reduction? MCS are awesome, but it’s critical to first establish the proper spring rates for your car, and driving preferences.

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Old Apr 30, 2023 | 08:29 AM
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Do the ohlins require a separate reservoir? Not sure what it's called but I am trying to describe that separate bolt it part that some have in the trunk. If so, does that require drilling?
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Old Apr 30, 2023 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Paolo1
Do the ohlins require a separate reservoir?
That is model dependent. Ohlins R&T = no.
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Old Apr 30, 2023 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
Depends on your roads. Ours are very ruff. I'd love to use a higher setting. PSS10 8/10 F/R you can drive over a coin and tell whether it's heads or tails.
LOL! ahhh...yes, agreed, very true. but even at lower settings, 5/5, 4/5 they are still much better than the lower tier options.
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Old May 7, 2023 | 04:19 PM
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Penske is another option. Ain’t cheap. But it’ll eliminate a lot of the guess work.

“Unlike most competitor packages, all of our suspension builds are tailored to you. We will recommend dyno curves and spring rates but a phone call is typically necessary to understand how you want your car to perform. Part of The Penske Advantage is having your own personal shock technician at your disposal to listen to your needs and to share our experiences at no additional cost.”
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Old May 8, 2023 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Strimdog
I've raced all three though I have not had them on a 993. I have on order a set of MCS 2 way for my 993. Decided to go with MCS because it's what I race and they have proven to be the most reliable, easiest company to deal with, and I love their adjustment window. The spring rate you choose has alot to do with how they feel and on the MCS I tend to use a little lighter spring. Can't go wrong with Ohlins either. I have spent a lot of time with MCS and will not hesitate to say they are among the best I've used.
I agree with this. I have MCS 1WNR on my 964 with 350/550 springs with PS4S tires and full monoballs and the ride on the street is very smooth. They absorb hard bumps very well with no harshness. Almost too plush for me, but I was coming from non-adjustable 600/800 Cup suspension. I do miss the feedback I would get from those, but not the hard jolt from hitting bumps.

I have MCS 2WNR on my GT3 with 500/700 springs, so I have something to compare to. I went two way because I wanted a digressive setup again and to learn more about how two ways work. They were my first set of two ways and it’s taken me a year to finally get them setup where they feel almost as good as the 964 on the street despite the stiffer springs (took much more compression and rebound then i expected). Great learning experience for understanding how suspension works.

I had Ohlins R&T on a previous car and it was fine. It worked well and didn’t get in the way. I’ll stick with MCS from now on though.
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Old May 17, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LimeyBoy
the front right has a clunking and is now sat on my workbench.
Update:
Ohlins USA came through: The fault was "excessive play in the outer tube bushings". The bushings were replaced, the turnaround was around 10 days and the $122 + shipping was waived for Goodwill.

Arrived last night:


Back in place:


Then out for a drive and ... beautifully clunk free.
Now I can put more miles on them
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Old May 17, 2023 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarek307
I've driven on all 3, Ohlins are another level, nothing compares in my opinion, but they are expensive... PSS10 are a perfect fit for daily driving, or canyons but can be a bit harsh however, not much, the MCS are from my experience more of a very aggressive setup best suited if you're racing..
Are you the same Tarek Salah on instagram?
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Old Sep 17, 2024 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vedicine
Anyone have experience riding/driving between the PSS10s and either MCS or Ohlins? .
Which ohlins are you referring to??Road and track or something "better"?
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Old Sep 18, 2024 | 01:56 PM
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Ohlins R&T are incredible. Ive driven all 3 and Ohlin's gets my money everytime.
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Old Sep 18, 2024 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamhands
Ohlins R&T are incredible. Ive driven all 3 and Ohlin's gets my money everytime.

I have recently put them on my 993 c2s. I have never tried anything other than the existing stock suspension. Feel amazing to me but I may notice a slight excess of bounciness that does not dial out
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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 09:15 AM
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Could Ohlins maintain stock height? Asking for a friend.
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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Madmike20
Could Ohlins maintain stock height? Asking for a friend.
But friends don't let friends....
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