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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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The second design is based on the upcoming Solid-State cooling fan relay for the 944 and 968.
Any chance of something like this for the 993 AC condenser and oil cooler fan relays? I have been very happy with my SSR DME relay I bought from you.
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 08:05 PM
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Fantastic idea on the oil cooler relays.

Good to see the great customer service. Standing by to see the final result.

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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I ordered a pump-prime version, however, when I turn the key to 'on' before the cranking position, I do not hear the fuel pump run.

When I crank the car, it starts just like it always has.

Does the pump activate when the key is in the 'on' position? If so, how long does it run when there?

BTW, my car is a NA 96 manual.
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by red64chevelle
Any chance of something like this for the 993 AC condenser and oil cooler fan relays? I have been very happy with my SSR DME relay I bought from you.
Looking at pictures of this relay, I do not see why I could not create a solid-state version. Do these relays commonly fail?

- Joe
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
I ordered a pump-prime version, however, when I turn the key to 'on' before the cranking position, I do not hear the fuel pump run.

When I crank the car, it starts just like it always has.

Does the pump activate when the key is in the 'on' position? If so, how long does it run when there?

BTW, my car is a NA 96 manual.
The SSR Pump-Prime should run the fuel pump for up to 3 seconds once the ignition is switched to the "ON" position. Does the SSR label have a "F9T-SSR-993-PP" part number? Also, It has come up that the 993 may not require the Pump-Prime feature, I can only assume this is because the DME is providing this functionality. In ether case, I would think you could hear the fuel pump with the ignition switch, but it could be the case that on the 993 it is it too faint to detect when it's running. If you like, I can send a replacement if you suspect it is defective.

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftech9
Looking at pictures of this relay, I do not see why I could not create a solid-state version. Do these relays commonly fail?

- Joe
The same relay is used for the oil cooler fan, the AC condenser fan, and the rear blower motor. I can't speak for everyone, but I have had to replace two out of the three. The slow speed contacts failed on them. If you make them, I would definitely buy two of them.

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by red64chevelle
The same relay is used for the oil cooler fan, the AC condenser fan, and the rear blower motor. I can't speak for everyone, but I have had to replace two out of the three. The slow speed contacts failed on them. If you make them, I would definitely buy two of them.

-Dan
Hi Dan,

There is no logic in the circuitry, so it would be a fairly straight forward design. I will open a backlog project for this and try to get samples of the enclosure. Assuming I can get this project off the ground, would you be willing to test prototypes?

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftech9
Hi Dan,

There is no logic in the circuitry, so it would be a fairly straight forward design. I will open a backlog project for this and try to get samples of the enclosure. Assuming I can get this project off the ground, would you be willing to test prototypes?

- Joe
Yes, I would be willing to test them. I could also send you out a relay to reverse engineer if it would help.

-Dan
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by red64chevelle
Yes, I would be willing to test them. I could also send you out a relay to reverse engineer if it would help.

-Dan
Yes, that would help, especially if it was one of the failed relays. This helps me understand the nature of the failure to help guide the design requirements. It also gives me an idea of how much space I have to work with for electronics.

I will send you a PM with my shipping address.

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 03:52 PM
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My F9 relay sometimes keeps the pump running, but not every time. I just move the key back to position 0 and it stops. Never had issues of car not starting though.
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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 02:10 PM
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An update on progress:

Test units for the updated Solid-State Relays are going to be delayed about a week. There was a small issue with the updated 993 SSR that required new circuit boards. Also the main switching Componet for the "Extreme" SSR is no longer available due to the global chip shortage. This version, as well as the 944/968 Solid-State Fan Relay, is on indefinite hold until the part becomes available.


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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Goose 993
My F9 relay sometimes keeps the pump running, but not every time. I just move the key back to position 0 and it stops. Never had issues of car not starting though.
What you describe is not normal, can you send me a PM with your ode number or address? I would like to send you out the same test SSRs to see if it corrects your issue.

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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftech9
What you describe is not normal, can you send me a PM with your ode number or address? I would like to send you out the same test SSRs to see if it corrects your issue.

- Joe
Sent you the info
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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An Update on Progress:

Yesterday I sent out two test Solid-State Relays to everyone in the Beta test group, I expect both relays will function correctly in the 993. The first relay reverts the recent changes in the SSR design. The second relays is the updated "Rev 2" design that incorporates the intent of the minor changes and, in theory, fundamentally corrects this issue. If you did not receive an email and where expecting to be apart of Beta testing please send me a PM or email me directly at joe@ftech9.com.

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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftech9
Looking at pictures of this relay, I do not see why I could not create a solid-state version. Do these relays commonly fail?

- Joe
Not really, and compared to the DME relay, probably at a ratio less than one for every ten DME relays.
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