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Old 04-23-2021, 01:29 PM
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Default 993 stopped running at idle, no codes

Looking for any known issue on this weird behavior. My 1996 993 stopped running while in neutral at an ATM. Wouldn't restart, starter turns engine turns over, but never catches.

I checked OBD2 and saw no codes, but oddly does show "Malfunction Indicator Light on" even though the check engine light is NOT lit on the dash.



Checked the ignition plug wires at the distributor and do not see spark. Sprayed starter fluid into intake, confirming no spark, no fire.

My friend brought his more sophisticated OBD2 scanner over and confirmed the camshaft sensor is registering 200 RPM while starter is turning over the engine.

Have owned this car since 1998 and never seen this behavior. Hard to research this via forum search. Wondering if immobilizer chip could be bad on my key? Appreciate any guidance here.

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Old 04-23-2021, 01:41 PM
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Did you install a new DME relay and try again? Sounds like that could be the problem.
Old 04-23-2021, 01:42 PM
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Have you checked the DME relay? I would start there.
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i search these forms using google. if you add "site" colon rennlist.com in the search block it just searches rennlist.com

site:rennlist.com searchterm1 searchterm2

site:rennlist.com 993 not starting

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to your specific issue, it sounds like a bad DME relay
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Buy two DME relays. One to fix your car and one for the glove box for when it happens again...

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I like that the general consensus is the DME relay. Hooray. Thanks for pointing me in a direction. I'll chase it down and report back.

Much appreciated,

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Search for the solid state DME to fix this issue for good
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+10 on your symptom = failed DME. If you'd like to confirm this and perhaps get back on the road in a few minutes it's a pretty simple soldering task to fix these. Search DME cold solder joints or DME repair - there are several threads. BUT, don't fail to get another one ASAP so you can keep the repaired one as a spare. Or as noted, the solid state version is a good permanent fix according to many here.

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That fixed it! Thanks!

Will try to re-solder the broken one and keep it as a spare. Bought replacement at dealer for $123 including tax.

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$123.00 for the DME relay sounds expensive. In any case use this one as a spare and buy the solid state one from Focus 9 Technology. I think it’s like $80 ish. Make this your primary.
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Originally Posted by mike cap
$123.00 for the DME relay sounds expensive. In any case use this one as a spare and buy the solid state one from Focus 9 Technology. I think it’s like $80 ish. Make this your primary.

Hi

is the DME P/N 993 615 227 02?
seems like FVD is having a discount like 21€ instead of 79€ :
https://www.fvd.net/de-en/shop?term=99361522701






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Also at Partsgeek.com for like $26.

https://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/19...cal/relay.html
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been carrying a spare DME since 2003, still on the original



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