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Old 01-26-2024, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by os993
Wow. So Carfax shows no accidents. How do I make sense of this? Shouldn't it show up on Carfax?
likely only if he went through his insurance company. if he decided to pay out of pocket, there's probably nothing to trigger carfax.

i'm surprised a car with that type of history is being sold 911r. they seem to normally sell extremely nice examples. a buyer should not have to buy a car that has a known history on a public auction site. if the dealer is aware, this is shady.

Old 01-26-2024, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rsabeebe
likely only if he went through his insurance company. if he decided to pay out of pocket, there's probably nothing to trigger carfax.

i'm surprised a car with that type of history is being sold 911r. they seem to normally sell extremely nice examples. a buyer should not have to buy a car that has a known history on a public auction site. if the dealer is aware, this is shady.
Agree. I took note of them as I thought they could be a trustworthy source when the time comes to acquire another classic pcar.

Perhaps not if this is all true.
Old 01-26-2024, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gbos1
Carrera S 1998 6sp. 53k miles Ocean Blue Metallic/Grey Interior

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-36/
Sold! $152,000
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Old 01-26-2024, 04:39 PM
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Sold! $152,000
what i read for comments were extremely positive. everyone kept talking about the amazing condition of the car. funny, most auctions tend to harp on paint meter readings. did no one ask on this one?

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Originally Posted by rsabeebe
likely only if he went through his insurance company. if he decided to pay out of pocket, there's probably nothing to trigger carfax.
Why I always scoff at these "clean carfax" claims on high end vehicles, especially 2, 3, 400k cars. Owners have the means to pay for the work out of pocket and protect their precious carfax report card.
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Old 02-02-2024, 09:00 PM
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Default BaT Sale $210k ALL in 😳

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-22/

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Old 02-02-2024, 09:38 PM
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The gulf between the S coupes and the Cabs and Targas is remarkable. If you buy to have a great driving car, they are all basically great driving cars, so that can't be the reason for the difference in pricing. Is it rarity? Not really, Porsche made plenty of all the common versions. Can someone explain this pricing phenomenon? Five years from now will this still be going on or will the market revert to normal pricing?
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WB Cars always bring the money …. Facts
Old 02-03-2024, 02:22 AM
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As discussed, well-documented, and boomboom above reminds, Carfax reports are often arbitrary and always optional, besides often being wrong- collision repair/.body shops decide to report or not. Don't believe?, check a Tech Tactics video from a year or 2 back with Vu and a major Porsche repair shop close to PCA Headquarters. Vu was stunned to learn this!
The Carfax Myth gets perpetuated and can have major effects on sales prices.
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Old 02-03-2024, 10:11 AM
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The car needs some TLC, and I hope the new owner drives it properly. Based on the work receipts, the car looks like it was sitting around for the last 10-15 years. That might explain the various oil leaks. It looks like the original engine mounts, and the tips are sagging. There looks to be a tear in the back of the passenger seat. Frunk carpet may also need a refresh.

I think some folks place too much value on the miles, and look past obvious deferred maintenance. My C2S has 9,999,999 miles on the registration, and it’s in better running condition. But with a little TLC, this car is a keeper!
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Old 02-06-2024, 07:33 PM
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we've had some low mileage 993s lately, but a 2300 mile '96 Turbo just showed up on BaT. polar over black sports.

$300k?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...911-turbo-149/
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Old 02-07-2024, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rdad993
The gulf between the S coupes and the Cabs and Targas is remarkable. If you buy to have a great driving car, they are all basically great driving cars, so that can't be the reason for the difference in pricing. Is it rarity? Not really, Porsche made plenty of all the common versions. Can someone explain this pricing phenomenon? Five years from now will this still be going on or will the market revert to normal pricing?
It‘s not only about how they drive and the supply.
The coupe is closer to the iconic 911 shape and more „pure“. The WB simply looks more aggressive.

Price is supply and demand. If demand isn‘t there (e.g. tiptronic), limited supply doesn‘t matter that much.
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Originally Posted by rdad993
The gulf between the S coupes and the Cabs and Targas is remarkable. If you buy to have a great driving car, they are all basically great driving cars, so that can't be the reason for the difference in pricing. Is it rarity? Not really, Porsche made plenty of all the common versions. Can someone explain this pricing phenomenon? Five years from now will this still be going on or will the market revert to normal pricing?
it's those sexy *** HIPS!!!

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Old 02-07-2024, 06:20 PM
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S Coupé production numbers (limited) matters as well. NB were more mass produced.
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Old 02-08-2024, 01:57 PM
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This situation needs to be tracked closely...sport seats, in gray, going for $15k+ fees, is a wow.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/po...sport-seats-2/

I've been saying that Sport Seats are the most underrated differentiator of Pcars...doesn't matter which iteration, and this auction seems to prove that out.

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