Recaro seat fitment....
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I got a set of Recaro SPG's with sliders and brackets for a good price. They came out of an 87 Carrera. I was told the brackets should bolt up to a 993, however when I test fit them today they did not. The sliders seemed as if they were too narrow so they would only mount to one side or the other. Before I go and order some new ones, I just want to make sure these definately should not fit? Also, when I go to order some new side brackets, what should I get and where? Are there some lightweight or better quality ones I should buy? Thanks.
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You'd think this would be easy but man it never is with seats!
Couple options:
- Loosen/unscrew the outboard side bolts attaching the seats to the brackets and then mount the sliders. There's some flex with the brackets so you can squeeze it all together and bolt it up after getting the sliders in place.
- Check if the brackets were swapped. The bottom lip of the the brackets usually face inwards, towards the under side of the seats, right? If you swap the inboard bracket from the passenger seat with the inboard bracket on the driver's seat, you'd then have one of the brackets on each seat facing outward. 911 drivers do this sometimes to get things to line up.
Make sure you minimize the use of socket extensions. If you don't come straight down on the bolts, you can strip them very easily ... ask me how I know.
Good luck, hang in there, it'll all be worth it in the end.
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Couple options:
- Loosen/unscrew the outboard side bolts attaching the seats to the brackets and then mount the sliders. There's some flex with the brackets so you can squeeze it all together and bolt it up after getting the sliders in place.
- Check if the brackets were swapped. The bottom lip of the the brackets usually face inwards, towards the under side of the seats, right? If you swap the inboard bracket from the passenger seat with the inboard bracket on the driver's seat, you'd then have one of the brackets on each seat facing outward. 911 drivers do this sometimes to get things to line up.
Make sure you minimize the use of socket extensions. If you don't come straight down on the bolts, you can strip them very easily ... ask me how I know.
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Is there suppose to be any orientation of the brackets. one side bracket has the recaro logo and one does not. Sould the recaro be facing out?
The bottom lip is facing toward the underside of the seat.
The bottom lip is facing toward the underside of the seat.
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You can see the orientation of the side mounts in this pic .
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The higher end should be in front. I used a wooden dowel in order to bend the mounts in/out slightly until they met up with the sides of the seats. Both the ones from Recaro and Speedware came in a configuration that was way too wide.
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The higher end should be in front. I used a wooden dowel in order to bend the mounts in/out slightly until they met up with the sides of the seats. Both the ones from Recaro and Speedware came in a configuration that was way too wide.
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I must be lucky. Last week I installed Pole Positions with the Recaro brackets and sliders. Everything fit perfectly though alot of people that I talked to were talking about measuring cutting and drilling.
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It sounds like you need to either swap the brackets to widen the track or loosen the side bolts to give yourself enough slack to attach the rails. As for orientation, I don't know if I've seen many "standard" installations. People use different bracket brands and sliders so I really couldn't say where the Recaro logo should appear on your setup.
I'd suggest you measure the width between mounting holes and see how much difference there is between that number and your sliders. If it's 1/4 - 1/2", you could probably squeeze them in with the loosened bolts. If there's a larger difference, you may want to consider swapping brackets to widen the track. Many sliders can easily be widened (universal) but if the design doesn't allow you to space them further apart, you may need to buy new ones.
It would be helpful to see some pictures of what you're working with.
I'd suggest you measure the width between mounting holes and see how much difference there is between that number and your sliders. If it's 1/4 - 1/2", you could probably squeeze them in with the loosened bolts. If there's a larger difference, you may want to consider swapping brackets to widen the track. Many sliders can easily be widened (universal) but if the design doesn't allow you to space them further apart, you may need to buy new ones.
It would be helpful to see some pictures of what you're working with.
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I have Recaro stickers on all of the brackets. Hope this helps:
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I took some measurements and the brackets are 3/4 of an inch too NARROW. Any ideas on what could be done? I thought of putting some washers between the seat and the bracket but I dont think that would get me to 3/4 of an inch, I am also a bit nervous about not putting as much thread through the seat either. Tried to find longer bolts but I could not find anything metric of good quality that would work.
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I think the swapping one of the brackets from each seat might work. Perhaps this diagram will help illustrate my suggestion. If you were to swap the brackets and mount the left one one the right side and the right one on the left side the lips at the bottom would face outward and widen the mounting points. When you reattach the sliders they would then have a wider track. (BTW, I've replied to your PM. Send 'em over)
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Okay, Nick, I received your photos and I'm going back to my other suggestion. First get the seat in the car, then loosen/detach the side bolts on one side (the one facing the door). Mount the slider, first, at all four corners and then squeeze the bracket and seat back together and insert the bolts. I checked the FVD catalog and they only sell one SPG slider which fits 87-98 911's, so apparently you have the correct parts. It's just a matter of massaging the unit into place.
Looks just like mine.
Yep, I got one blank bracket and one logo'd piece, too.
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Looks just like mine.
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Yep, I got one blank bracket and one logo'd piece, too.
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Good luck!
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Thank you ver much for the help. I tried taking the brackets off of the seat and installing them and then trying to get the seat in but that did not work to well. I will try the one sided approach. Thanks again.
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My seats came with some 'spacer' type washers that added about 1/2" to the width of the PPs I installed (when I removed the SPGs). I installed the sliders with the seat only loosely bolted on the outside (inside tight, 'cause it a PITA to get to) and afer the slider were tight, I tightend the last of the seat bolts. I t really helped to have the extra wiggle room from the loose bolts on the seat.
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Can those of you who have bracket seat in their 993 can let me know the if a full size adult can gain access to the rear seat when the front seat is all the way up?
I am thinking of bracket but needed to retain the rear seat.
Many Thanks,
Winson
I am thinking of bracket but needed to retain the rear seat.
Many Thanks,
Winson