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Old 12-17-2020, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gmorat
Most people would take higher mileage over a car with an accident so I don't think this is representative.

I'm not into tan interiors but it looks GOOD on that blue!

Arena red is also a less popular color for 993's for some reason. I always liked it with a black interior but no accounting for taste.

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You just reinforced my original assertion that an S to 4S apple/apple comparison is almost impossible to come by.
And if I might add, even if one exists, is not quite repeatable and hence not a reliable indicator.
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Never realized the C4S does not have a split grill. Only the C2S got that detail?
Old 12-18-2020, 01:25 AM
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Default new owner of the high mile 993 C4S from PCAR

in the photo it was the 2019 BMW M5C The new to me C4S is at the dealer getting a good once over and the blinker and all the other stalks replaced as the plastic has fatigued. The occupants have been changed until the 993 comes home tomorrow
Old 12-18-2020, 01:30 AM
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Thank you . I have a set of non chrome 996 Turbo twists gifted to me from a club member who has no use for them if I want them. Said he was doing a favor to all Ozark lake club members by protecting their eyes from Chrome on a 911
Old 12-18-2020, 01:32 AM
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Great points about an indy air cool specialists They are not easy to find here in South West MO
Old 12-18-2020, 08:40 AM
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Anyone know how many Polar Silver and red boxter interior were produced? 993 c2s?
Old 12-18-2020, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by aircooledpurist
Never realized the C4S does not have a split grill. Only the C2S got that detail?
Yes, only S models. Though it is not uncommon for 4S or even NB owners to put one as a MOD.
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Originally Posted by Pilota
Thank you . I have a set of non chrome 996 Turbo twists gifted to me from a club member who has no use for them if I want them. Said he was doing a favor to all Ozark lake club members by protecting their eyes from Chrome on a 911
Well, that is one generous gift!!
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mdude
Wells, for a S vs 4S comparison, albeit not identical, here's one:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-4s-42/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-carrera-s-24/

As I said earlier, it's not apples/apples.
  • The 4S had an accident, but the S has higher mileage.
  • Arena red (4S) is not as sought after as ocean blue (S).
  • The S looks like a better kept car (look at driver seat booster w/ much less wear than the supposedly lower mileage 4S).
I'd like to think people shelling out tens of thousands know their value.
In about a week's time we'll find the answer.
Here is an interesting study as well on Ebay (while these are "asking" prices, all 3 cars referenced have similar mileage range):

'97 4s $108k ask, 63,570 mi
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Porsch...on=3000%7C2500

'97 4s $115k ask, 63,815 mi
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Porsch...on=3000%7C2500

'98 2s $88k ask, 66,132 mi
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Porsch...on=3000%7C2500

I am not aware of any Carfax dings on these cars, and have not considered options or interiors...and none have chrome wheels.


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88k for the S? Bargain and not a common color...

Ok so y'all agree 10% premium for S over 4S?
Old 12-18-2020, 09:51 AM
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By the way, does the blue car on BAT have the correct exhaust tips?
Old 12-18-2020, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by stevensivak
By the way, does the blue car on BAT have the correct exhaust tips?
yes those are the correct tips. They are part of the motorsound package

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Originally Posted by stevensivak
88k for the S? Bargain and not a common color...

Ok so y'all agree 10% premium for S over 4S?

https://www.adscars.com/1998-Porsche...-77057/6879129

That S for 88k has been in accidents. I am not sure how bad it was, but it appears that the whole car was repainted. Look at the pic of the vin tag... signs of taping off.
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Originally Posted by paranoidandroid
https://www.adscars.com/1998-Porsche...-77057/6879129

That S for 88k has been in accidents. I am not sure how bad it was, but it appears that the whole car was repainted. Look at the pic of the vin tag... signs of taping off.
In an accident 5 months after it was bought by the first owner in 1998!

Old 12-18-2020, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gmorat
In an accident 5 months after it was bought by the first owner in 1998!
Seriously, ouch. I don't think that is a good car to use if your interested in comparing S to 4S. Look at the photos of the vin sticker in the listing - its been painted very poorly in a different color, I believe that the car should be arctic silver - that is a grey of some kind, maybe the respray was going for slate grey? I'd want to pay for the build sheet form suncoast or somewhere to verify the real color and ask for photos of the frunk and engine bay as well.


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