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Old 12-15-2020, 01:08 PM
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I think there is more upside to 993 prices based off of loosely tracking for the last 18 mos. What's becoming clearer to me is that there is a more pronounced premium being placed on mileage/condition/color than ever before. Look at the previous black on black C4S sold on PCM a month ago. It went for 69K.

http://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1997-porsche-911-c4s/

Pros/cons to both cars, but is it worth a 30K price difference?

Agree with the points on values going up PE ratios/bitcoin/real estate etc. The clear winners are the owners and without a doubt, the ones who drive them!
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Originally Posted by paranoidandroid
I think there is more upside to 993 prices based off of loosely tracking for the last 18 mos. What's becoming clearer to me is that there is a more pronounced premium being placed on mileage/condition/color than ever before. Look at the previous black on black C4S sold on PCM a month ago. It went for 69K.

http://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1997-porsche-911-c4s/

Pros/cons to both cars, but is it worth a 30K price difference?

Agree with the points on values going up PE ratios/bitcoin/real estate etc. The clear winners are the owners and without a doubt, the ones who drive them!
$30k difference, absolutely. That PCM car had double the mileage, a carfax ding (which is a big depreciator) and chrome wheels (limited amount of folks consider that desirable). If anything the PCM car makes the BaT car look like a "bargain".
Old 12-15-2020, 05:20 PM
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Maybe its just BAT crazy, but this 95 plain wrapper just went for $80,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-86/
Old 12-15-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zed.
Maybe its just BAT crazy, but this 95 plain wrapper just went for $80,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-86/
The response in that auction thread is like watching bears on Fintwit.

Old 12-15-2020, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Zed.
Maybe its just BAT crazy, but this 95 plain wrapper just went for $80,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-86/
so, $80k for some Ruf wheels on a NB? what?

what warrants the $80k?
Old 12-15-2020, 06:07 PM
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The write up said RUF-like wheels. Like not RUF.
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The amount of useless comments from the peanut gallery are so hard to get through

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Old 12-15-2020, 07:51 PM
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My Polar Silver with a full black leather interior and limited slip looks new in and out. Is well sorted out. Currently has just under 21,000 miles. I feel good hearing that price.
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aircooledpurist
My Polar Silver with a full black leather interior and limited slip looks new in and out. Is well sorted out. Currently has just under 21,000 miles. I feel good hearing that price.
Do you know if the LSD still functions correctly? I've heard they're pretty fragile. Mine has an LSD, but I'm sure the discs are toast by now at 102k miles.
Old 12-15-2020, 09:06 PM
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The 993 prices have been level for a couple of years it is nice to see them rising again. All us 993 owners would agree i would think.
Old 12-15-2020, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gdub
The 993 prices have been level for a couple of years it is nice to see them rising again. All us 993 owners would agree i would think.
Can be double-edged, for those w/ clean no story well-maintained cars that are not planning to sell, this may mean upping the guaranteed value insurance and thus its premium.
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:34 PM
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And suddenly this one looks very reasonable...

https://www.luckydriversportcars.com...9vs322002.html
Old 12-15-2020, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by notabot
Do you know if the LSD still functions correctly? I've heard they're pretty fragile. Mine has an LSD, but I'm sure the discs are toast by now at 102k miles.
Honestly I do not know. I've never pushed it enough to tell. My air cooled mechanic has been through the car with a fine tooth comb several times and he has never hinted that it did not function. With the low miles and having had an older guy barely driving it from new, my guess is it is in proper working order.
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Originally Posted by mdude
And suddenly this one looks very reasonable...

https://www.luckydriversportcars.com...9vs322002.html

Meh... low miles for sure at 28k but it’s Silver. Nothing like a Blk/Blk 993 WB
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Originally Posted by mdude
Can be double-edged, for those w/ clean no story well-maintained cars that are not planning to sell, this may mean upping the guaranteed value insurance and thus its premium.
Interestingly enough this past year I left Hagerty and switched to State Farm. They came out and appraised my car at a guaranteed value of 85K. Even with the high valuation, State Farm has the best rates by far.
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