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Old 05-24-2020, 11:40 AM
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After battery discharge, not much driving during past months, battery was not completely dead. I disconnect ground and put charger on. Once charged, car starts, everything operates except AC.
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Does the compressor clutch engage when the cars running and A/C button is on?
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No clutch engage, or front fan
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In other words. AC has been working absolutely fine, all controls, fan speeds prior. have checked fuse under hood and rear right fuse. both are fine.
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Originally Posted by Rick512
In other words. AC has been working absolutely fine, all controls, fan speeds prior. have checked fuse under hood and rear right fuse. both are fine.
Compressor not running due to low refrigirant level, AC systems can leak if used ingfrequently.

Same symptoms for me, will have it checked ln tuesday.

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Pretty simple diagnostic. First check voltage at the compressor, if no voltage check the compressor relay in the engine compartment. If the relay checks out, check the fog light relay in the front trunk fuse box. Beyond that check the coolant pressures and then lastly the 3 way pressure switch. My money is on the compressor relay or the fog light relay.
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Thanks for the tips, AC relay tested OK, there is no 12 volts at compressor. Condenser fan runs, checked 7.5 volt fuse near ac relay, and 25 amp fuse in front fuse box.do you think a coincidence AC stops after dead battery? I had a dead battery about a year ago, recharged and AC worked fine after that. I know you have to drive the car after you recharge to get electronics back in order. Is there another fuse by chance? Thanks
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forgot to mention, car was driven 2 weeks prior with no issues, i think it would have to sit for a much longer time to lose freon
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Don't look too deeply until you have verified the refrigerant fill.

The 993 has a Three-level pressure switch

The switch really contains two switches. One of them cuts the CCU clutch signal and turns off the compressor if the pressure is too low, (2.5 bar) or too high (27 bar) in the A/C refrigerant circuit system. The other switch set the condenser cooling fan speed to high if the pressure exceeds 17.5 bar. The sensor assembly is mounted on the metal A/C pipe near the HVAC servo motors in the trunk.

I would go to Wal-Mart and buy two $7 cans of refrigerant and the reusable filling hose. Hook it up to the low-pressure side of the compressor and run it in with the can upside down, the engine running and the AC set to max. If the refrigerant is low it will empty into the system and, I would think, cause the compressor to start running. If not your problem lies somewhere else. Once the one can is in and the compressor is running check the vent temperatures if they are nice and cool you are done. If not, put the 2nd can in. I do this little dance in the Wal-Mart parking lot every 4 to 6 years. I also every once in a while use the refrigerant that has the system lubricant mixed in. HVAC guys will throw up over this low tech recommendation but it seems to work for me over many years and two 911.
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Originally Posted by pp000830
Don't look too deeply until you have verified the refrigerant fill.

The 993 has a Three-level pressure switch

The switch really contains two switches. One of them cuts the CCU clutch signal and turns off the compressor if the pressure is too low, (2.5 bar) or too high (27 bar) in the A/C refrigerant circuit system. The other switch set the condenser cooling fan speed to high if the pressure exceeds 17.5 bar. The sensor assembly is mounted on the metal A/C pipe near the HVAC servo motors in the trunk.

I would go to Wal-Mart and buy two $7 cans of refrigerant and the reusable filling hose. Hook it up to the low-pressure side of the compressor and run it in with the can upside down, the engine running and the AC set to max. If the refrigerant is low it will empty into the system and, I would think, cause the compressor to start running. If not your problem lies somewhere else. Once the one can is in and the compressor is running check the vent temperatures if they are nice and cool you are done. If not, put the 2nd can in. I do this little dance in the Wal-Mart parking lot every 4 to 6 years. I also every once in a while use the refrigerant that has the system lubricant mixed in. HVAC guys will throw up over this low tech recommendation but it seems to work for me over many years and two 911.
Andy
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will try that, thank you
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Originally Posted by Rick512
will try that, thank you
Hi Rick,
Please be sure to let us know what resolved your problem, whatever that may prove to be.
Enquiring minds will want to know.
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Just saying, if topping up the system with refrigerant fixes it you have an underlying problem which needs to be addressed.
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Did you also check the fog light relay (in the front fuse box)? Just swap the sunroof or whatever other relay into that spot to check.

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Originally Posted by Greg Bell
Just saying, if topping up the system with refrigerant fixes it you have an underlying problem which needs to be addressed.
Or it could be the mandatory snall leak of like 5% a year that evengually shut down the system!!


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