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993 large windows
Is it just me, or do they new 911s with their less high rear and side windows make you feel you have less visibility? Am used to the 993’s great all around view and visibilty. Modern cars need parking sensors and cameras, the 993s don’t. I feel claustrophobic in caymans and the new 911s, like the 992.
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Is it just me, or do they new 911s with their less high rear and side windows make you feel you have less visibility? Am used to the 993’s great all around view and visibilty. Modern cars need parking sensors and cameras, the 993s don’t. I feel claustrophobic in caymans and the new 911s, like the 992.
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Three Wheelin'
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Try sitting in something like a BW 2002, the all round visibility is amazing. The manufacturers are going in the wrong direction in regards to seeing outside the car yet adding cameras, etc.
Have you sat in a new Camaro? It’s like a submarine.
Have you sat in a new Camaro? It’s like a submarine.
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In 20 years we'll all be in windowless, self driving, electric steel chambers with cameras on the outside and a few screens on the inside for those who wish to tear themselves from their social media for a few seconds and get a rough idea of where they are.
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Our front and rear windshields, like in the BMW 2002 referenced, are substantially more vertical than in newer cars. Continually increased raking for "looks" and aerodynamics, as well as shrinking the size of rear glass, create impaired visibility.
Enter...cameras and systems to see, hear, mop up.
Enter...cameras and systems to see, hear, mop up.
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So I read this thread and then went out for a drive to the grocery store in my daily-driver 981 Cayman S. All in all, I thought visibility was pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty good. Yes, I sit lower than in the 993. And there is a blind spot caused by the c pillar -- which there is in the 993, too. And compared to the cars I was raised on (I've owned over a dozen early BMWs from the 70s and 80s, including 7 2002s) none of the Porsches I've owned compare to the great BMW visibility. The worst was a 993 cabriolet.....