Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Using 996 twists on 993c2s...track tire recommendations?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-24-2017, 01:40 AM
  #1  
DD GT3 RD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
DD GT3 RD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,442
Received 632 Likes on 263 Posts
Default Using 996 twists on 993c2s...track tire recommendations?

Picked up 996 hollow twists for my 993c2s. Looking for track tire recommendations.

Stock 993 C2S Tire Size
225/40/18 285/30/18

996 Turbo Twists Size & Tire Size
8x18 11x18 - 225/40/18 295/30/18

Could run bridgestone Re71r
225/40/18 or 235/40/18
285/35/18 - $1000

Nitro nt05
225/40/18 or 235/40/18
285/35/18 or 295/35/18 - about $850

Michelin Cup2
stock sizing of 225/40/18 and 295/30/18 - @ $1310

R888 usually suck but saw hey came out with R888R (updated version)
and they come in 996 turbo sizing - @ $912


Yoko AD08R 225/40/18 and 285/30/18 - $1070.





Last edited by DD GT3 RD; 12-24-2017 at 11:04 AM.
Old 12-24-2017, 02:23 AM
  #2  
Martin S.
Rennlist Member
 
Martin S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Solana Beach, CA
Posts: 9,621
Received 535 Likes on 349 Posts
Default Nitto NT 01

Nitto doesn't make a 285, it's a 275, or move up to a 305 (Impossible to find at times), or a 315. Highly doubtful that a 315 will fit. Nitto NT-01 has a great reputation for wear and stick. As a DOT 100 tire, you could drive to the track with these tires.

Or, if money is no object, go to Hoosier R7. I was able to get a 255 on the front of my NB 993, and 295 on the rear. Hoosiers are in another dimension when it comes to stick. These tires should NOT be driven to the track.
Old 12-24-2017, 02:51 AM
  #3  
DD GT3 RD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
DD GT3 RD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,442
Received 632 Likes on 263 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Martin S.
Nitto doesn't make a 285, it's a 275, or move up to a 305 (Impossible to find at times), or a 315. Highly doubtful that a 315 will fit. Nitto NT-01 has a great reputation for wear and stick. As a DOT 100 tire, you could drive to the track with these tires.

Or, if money is no object, go to Hoosier R7. I was able to get a 255 on the front of my NB 993, and 295 on the rear. Hoosiers are in another dimension when it comes to stick. These tires should NOT be driven to the track.
thanks martin. I’ve driven on most of these. Looking for something to drive to and from the track. But asking more specifically to see what fits. I do like nt01 but 275 is a bit narrow for a 11 inch wheel and not sure 305 will clear. Wish they make 285/295
Old 12-24-2017, 10:10 AM
  #4  
clib
Rennlist Member
 
clib's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 697
Received 118 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

I have same wheels for track and love my Yokahama AD08 (cant remember the latest variant). Safe even if raining hard on way to track, great traction and long lasting with little degradation in performance.
Old 12-24-2017, 11:03 AM
  #5  
DD GT3 RD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
DD GT3 RD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,442
Received 632 Likes on 263 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by clib
I have same wheels for track and love my Yokahama AD08 (cant remember the latest variant). Safe even if raining hard on way to track, great traction and long lasting with little degradation in performance.
i see they have 225/40/18 and 285/30/18 would be around $1070.
Are those the sizes you’re running?

My only thing is that we typically run a 285 on the stock sized 10” rear. So moving to 11” twist rear seems better to move up to 295 Not sure a 305 fires. But those would seem to match the wheel size better
Old 12-24-2017, 01:10 PM
  #6  
Martin S.
Rennlist Member
 
Martin S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Solana Beach, CA
Posts: 9,621
Received 535 Likes on 349 Posts
Default

You have a somewhat handmade car. You won't know if a 295 or 305 will fit until you try it.

I got 255s on the front of my 993 and 295s on the rear, Hoosier R7 tires. The car was lowered to RS ride height, with -3.5 degrees of camber on the front and -2.5 degrees on the rear and the fenders were rolled. Big tires were significantly more pleasing to run than smaller tires. Turn it was improved, and confidence inspired with wider tires in the rear.

NT-01 305s seem to get snapped up in the beginning of the year...so don't linger on these.
Old 12-25-2017, 02:08 AM
  #7  
_snowbird_
Rennlist Member
 
_snowbird_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I had a thread discussing this same topic for my C4S.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...a-de-tire.html

I ended up going with 235/40f and 275/35r with RE-71R’s. You want more traction up front to avoid understeer from the 225’s, so 235 works well. For me, the reduction in rear width to 275 (from 285 stock) helped with minimize my unwanted understeer. Also, because my car is a C4S I needed to keep the f/r diameters similar. With a 235f, a 275r was the best match. I love the setup.
Old 12-26-2017, 02:45 AM
  #8  
DD GT3 RD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
DD GT3 RD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,442
Received 632 Likes on 263 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by _snowbird_
I had a thread discussing this same topic for my C4S.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...a-de-tire.html

I ended up going with 235/40f and 275/35r with RE-71R’s. You want more traction up front to avoid understeer from the 225’s, so 235 works well. For me, the reduction in rear width to 275 (from 285 stock) helped with minimize my unwanted understeer. Also, because my car is a C4S I needed to keep the f/r diameters similar. With a 235f, a 275r was the best match. I love the setup.
great thank you. 275 seems like it would be really stretched on a 11in wheel though. Maybe should of just bought different wheels. ****
Old 12-26-2017, 11:43 AM
  #9  
_snowbird_
Rennlist Member
 
_snowbird_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD


great thank you. 275 seems like it would be really stretched on a 11in wheel though. Maybe should of just bought different wheels. ****
While it’s not like how the 285’s protrude from the wheel lips on 10’s, the 275’s are not really stretched. 275’s are designed for use on up to 11” widths, so you’re not out of spec.

but since you’re shopping for a 2S car, you could probably go with 285’s or wider without having to worry about keeping the f-r diameters as close as you do on a 4S.
Old 12-27-2017, 02:10 PM
  #10  
e9stibi
Drifting
 
e9stibi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hannover
Posts: 2,423
Received 33 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by _snowbird_


While it’s not like how the 285’s protrude from the wheel lips on 10’s, the 275’s are not really stretched. 275’s are designed for use on up to 11” widths, so you’re not out of spec.

but since you’re shopping for a 2S car, you could probably go with 285’s or wider without having to worry about keeping the f-r diameters as close as you do on a 4S.

+1. Running 275/35/18 on the exact rim fro years without any issues. I used NT01 and Federal RSR-RR. Just check the tire spec for rim width.
Old 12-28-2017, 10:58 AM
  #11  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 12,395
Received 579 Likes on 398 Posts
Default

Any 993S will have more understeer than a non w/ the same wheel/tire and suspension setup due to the wider rear track. The best you can do is minimize this trait. Usually w/ more rear sway bar and/or more rear spring rate

Even a regular 993 profits greatly from using 8.5 or even 9 in front. Typically you want 245/35 on 8.5 and 285/30 x18 on 10. But unless you want to run R7 these sizes aren't generally available in road+track suitable tires.

RE71R is a great choice for a road +track capable tire but be aware that their line may be changing there used to be a 285/30 RE71R which was suitable for use on a 9.5 to 10.5 225/40 or 255/35 are the best height matches, 255/35 the best for reducing understeer but the hardest to fit and you need at least an 8.5 for it. Unfortunately it appears that Bridgestone may be eliminating this size from it's tire line.

Lots of 993 use 235/40 or 245/40(I don't see an RE71 in this size listed) w/ 275/35 on 8 or 8.5 front(8.5 preferred even for 225/40) these are both good matches for 275/35(Re71 in this size is spec'ed for 9 to 11)

For the best possible track performance and grip you will always want to use the widest possible wheel for which a tire is spec'ed, for most 275/35 x18 that is an 11

NT01 is another good choice 235/40 or 245/40(slightly better match for height) & 275/35 an alternative for the rear here is 315/30 which is slightly shorter than the 275 but also induces more understeer

Lastly shorter is better for the drive wheels, that's a good reason to use 285/30 or 265/35 for these
Old 12-28-2017, 09:39 PM
  #12  
DD GT3 RD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
DD GT3 RD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,442
Received 632 Likes on 263 Posts
Default


Ended up with 235/285 Re71r. I’ll see how the balance is at the track.
Old 12-28-2017, 11:59 PM
  #13  
Tlaloc75
Three Wheelin'
 
Tlaloc75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,983
Received 147 Likes on 101 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD

Ended up with 235/285 Re71r. I’ll see how the balance is at the track.
Very interested to hear what you think. I have 235/265 on now and am considering 275 or 285 when the rears wear out.
Old 12-29-2017, 12:54 AM
  #14  
cgfen
Rennlist Member
 
cgfen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vista CA
Posts: 7,740
Received 886 Likes on 584 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD

Ended up with 235/285 Re71r. I’ll see how the balance is at the track.
good choice.
that's what i have on one set of wheels for the GT3.
impressive grip
enjoy!
Old 12-30-2017, 12:06 PM
  #15  
_snowbird_
Rennlist Member
 
_snowbird_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD

Ended up with 235/285 Re71r. I’ll see how the balance is at the track.
I think you'll like that setup. Interested to hear if you feel like the rears are outgripping the fronts. Have fun!


Quick Reply: Using 996 twists on 993c2s...track tire recommendations?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:56 AM.