RS Clutch and LW Flywheel on a C$
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I have seen a lot of comments (mostly positive) on the benefits of the RS clutch and LW flywheel. One somewhat negative comment I have heard is that the lower mass is somewhat of a negative on the heavier AWD system. Has anyone experienced this? Any thoughts or suggestions on a good clutch/flywheel replacement for a '97 C4 Cab would be much appreciated. Thanks
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hmmmm,
I have a 98 awd car
Where did you get your thoughts from?
I have had no problems...granted my car is stock, but I did have the rs clutch/flywheel.....for my own sake....."negative on the heavier AWD system"....huh??
Your car will rev quicker....it will also make some noise
Is that all your thinking of doing?
I have a 98 awd car
Where did you get your thoughts from?
I have had no problems...granted my car is stock, but I did have the rs clutch/flywheel.....for my own sake....."negative on the heavier AWD system"....huh??
Your car will rev quicker....it will also make some noise
Is that all your thinking of doing?
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A lighter weight, faster responding engine could ever be a downside. I just put one on my C4S, and I love it. The old flywheel/clutch is a very heavy part, as it must be to spin such a high-compression engine.
Do it, you will not regret it. Unless, of course, you want it to remain in a "stock" class..
Do it, you will not regret it. Unless, of course, you want it to remain in a "stock" class..
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Thanks for all of the responses, I am new to this forum. To answer Phil's question, I just got the car and am definately looking for good bang-for-the-buck upgrades to do ( I know it is a slippery slope and I just asked for a push...). The major stuff like the clutch I am planning on doing when the original needs to be replaced. I do think in the near future that the front brake rotors are going to need replacing, so not sure what to do there. Don't think I want to spend the $1500parts + labor to do the Big Reds, but wouldn't mind spending a little more than the stock upgrade to get a little more. Was also thinking of opening up the airbox. I have the motorsound option, but it sounds like the small airholes don't do a whole lot. Have seen some covers where it looks like it is just a frame and the filter is pretty exposed (guess I would do a K&N filter too unless there is a better suggestion). Also, does it make sense to "chip" it when you start messing with the air intake?
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Addison,
That "stock" comment from Phil just jumped right out, didn't it?
And then the invitation to join the "Slippery Slope Club" with this:
Is that all your thinking of doing?
GEEZ Phil !!
That "stock" comment from Phil just jumped right out, didn't it?
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And then the invitation to join the "Slippery Slope Club" with this:
Is that all your thinking of doing?
GEEZ Phil !!
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I don't think the K&N gets you anything except for a lighter wallet.
Steve Weiner's chips are highly regarded.
Drilling the motorsound airbox will probably just get you a little more induction noise but not much else.
Clutch and flywheel and re-gearing seem to be the best bang for the $.
Good luck.
Steve Weiner's chips are highly regarded.
Drilling the motorsound airbox will probably just get you a little more induction noise but not much else.
Clutch and flywheel and re-gearing seem to be the best bang for the $.
Good luck.
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Hi John:
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The RS LWF kit is a major improvement in performance and durability by eliminating the somewhat troublesome dual-mass flywheel. We also use the GT-2 clutch for an even better setup for the folks who track their cars.
If you have the budget, nothing makes a bigger difference in acceleration as a set of close-ratio gears. Its akin to adding 50 HP to the performance of the car and is a much better bang-for-the-buck as a 3.8 kit.
I like our chips, too,.......
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The RS LWF kit is a major improvement in performance and durability by eliminating the somewhat troublesome dual-mass flywheel. We also use the GT-2 clutch for an even better setup for the folks who track their cars.
If you have the budget, nothing makes a bigger difference in acceleration as a set of close-ratio gears. Its akin to adding 50 HP to the performance of the car and is a much better bang-for-the-buck as a 3.8 kit.
I like our chips, too,.......
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Hi Steve,
How heavy is the RS clutch/flywheel compared to the standard one to operate. My wife is quite small and I'm wondering if this would, unfortunately, stop her from being able to drive the car?
Thanks,
David
How heavy is the RS clutch/flywheel compared to the standard one to operate. My wife is quite small and I'm wondering if this would, unfortunately, stop her from being able to drive the car?
Thanks,
David
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Caveman,
I made the switch to a LWF / RS clutch on my '97 C4S. No noticeable change in pedal effort. If fact, when new, I think the clutch effort is less than as the clutch wears. May be just my imagination. But your wife will have no trouble with the RS clutch.
Cheers,
I made the switch to a LWF / RS clutch on my '97 C4S. No noticeable change in pedal effort. If fact, when new, I think the clutch effort is less than as the clutch wears. May be just my imagination. But your wife will have no trouble with the RS clutch.
Cheers,
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I have the RS clutch and LWF on my car for about a year with no problems either with pedal effort (turbos have clutch assist), idle or noise. I would highly recommend this upgrade if you have to change the stock clutch.
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Hi David:
Since the clutch is hydraulically actuated and the clamping pressure is not appreciably changed, I think your wife will not have any problems with the RS LWF setup.
Since the clutch is hydraulically actuated and the clamping pressure is not appreciably changed, I think your wife will not have any problems with the RS LWF setup.