Are these chain cover surfaces clean enough?
#1
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Are these chain cover surfaces clean enough?
Getting ready to put this all back together and was wondering if these surfaces are clean enough. I scraped the housing with a razor blade and a scotch brite pad. I degreased the cover and used a scotch brite pad on that too.
Planning on new gaskets, donuts and nuts with Loctite 574 between the gasket and housing only.
Planning on new gaskets, donuts and nuts with Loctite 574 between the gasket and housing only.
#3
Hmm, how much are new timing chain covers?
If cost-prohibitive, I would put more diligence in cleaning the cover gasket groove, and apply the Loctite to both the housing and the cover surfaces.
I would want the center of the cover groove looking as clean as the 2/3 raised radius tab to the right of the hole.
Torque to spec in correct pattern if designated.
If cost-prohibitive, I would put more diligence in cleaning the cover gasket groove, and apply the Loctite to both the housing and the cover surfaces.
I would want the center of the cover groove looking as clean as the 2/3 raised radius tab to the right of the hole.
Torque to spec in correct pattern if designated.
Last edited by nine9six; 07-31-2017 at 12:22 PM.
#5
+1 The covers still have some material. Needs to be bare metal. Its a PITA but better than a leak.
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#8
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Isn't that why you use the Loctite 574? to fill in all those pits and bumps? I think you're asking a lot of a rubber bead to seal against those variations. I've seen posts talking about self leveling powder coats.
I'm interested in this because it's in my future.
I'm interested in this because it's in my future.
#9
I recently did a reseal on a 95 engine that looked about like this, actually worse.
I believe what we are seeing is corrosion under the hard coating.
What I used, was a product called Curil T for the chain cover gasket and O-rings. Then I used 574 on the case to chain housing flange.
It stayed bone dry, but if money was no object it would have been nice to replace the housings and covers.
I have never seen 574 used with a rubber gasket (I don't know if it would dry), only metal to metal or paper flanges.
I believe what we are seeing is corrosion under the hard coating.
What I used, was a product called Curil T for the chain cover gasket and O-rings. Then I used 574 on the case to chain housing flange.
It stayed bone dry, but if money was no object it would have been nice to replace the housings and covers.
I have never seen 574 used with a rubber gasket (I don't know if it would dry), only metal to metal or paper flanges.
#10
I believe so. I think the housing is as good as it is going to get but the cover gasket groove needs more work with the scotch brite pad.
Last edited by nine9six; 07-31-2017 at 11:10 PM.
#12
Calvin and Ed's recommendation for Curl T makes sense here. Yamaha also makes a like rubber gasket sealer called Yamabond, which could be used in this application.
I thought the OP was quoting Loktite from the Porsche Repair Manual.
Thats what I get for thinking...
I thought the OP was quoting Loktite from the Porsche Repair Manual.
Thats what I get for thinking...
#14
Don't use 574 with rubber gaskets, use Curil-T. 574 is an anaerobic sealant and only gets used metal to metal or as a glaze on thin gaskets. With the Curil T, just a glaze. More is not better. The groove in the chain cover looks fine, but the chain box mating surface needs a little more work. I think I used a clean metal straightedge at an angle to gently scrape that surface clean.