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Old 10-23-2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Benedict14
Dude, I think we’re in the same business. So I can say this to you with love and respect - that was absolutely friggin awful Negative alpha and positive alpha ? The underlined section is relevant though. It’s also the loose definition of alpha.
Heh... moscow mules may complicate the aero a bit.
Old 10-25-2017 | 10:58 AM
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I see more 959 every time I look.
Old 10-25-2017 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Argon_


I see more 959 every time I look.
Man, you guys are good at subtleties. I see minorly tweaked 991.
Old 10-25-2017 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Zlaatan
Spot on. All these active wings that sits flush with the body when in the down position look terrible when they come up imo. Aventador, SLS, AMG GT, F-type, 911, 720s, A7 etcetcetc they all look like a part of the body has come loose when the wing goes up and I can't stand the look of it.
I get that it's functional and helps performance, especially on supercars, but the cars look just like you said, broken.
Agree but the one on the 911 Turbo looks great.
Old 10-25-2017 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Argon_


I see more 959 every time I look.
I'm pretty sure that's a Panamera
Old 10-25-2017 | 04:47 PM
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Looks like an evolved 991, with retro references in the hood, and with larger diameter rear wheels than front. The flares are sweet. Looks like all grip n go for the new understructure and what must he boost in HP to stay competitive with its rivals. I'd guess the weight distribution is improved too.

I hope that larger spoiler is a significant aero improvement, because it does nothing good to the rear look when deployed. A Panamera Turbo sort of spoiler should be an option.
Old 10-25-2017 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Argon_


I see more 959 every time I look.
It looks flatter and wider. I like it.
Old 10-25-2017 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Benedict14
I know what you mean, but - with an aerofoil it’s always lift. In the case of the spoiler, the lift vector is pointed down (ish). Creating downforce.

Yes, I get that. Just keeping it simple.

Lift goes up, downforce goes, well, down.

But yes, the downforce is the result of lift being generated by an inverted aerofoil and it's alpha, angle of attack, chord and NACA shape and everything else about it.

I'm not an engineer, but am an aviator, so while I don't know how to calculate the lift force and exact AOA numbers impact, I do know the practical impacts of all of the above! And for us simple aviators, lift=up, downforce<>up.
Old 10-25-2017 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kkapoor
It looks flatter and wider. I like it.
I like those shots,....you can definitely see the wider front and rear fenders,....but the wheels are now tucked too far inside, gotta do something about that. (I'm sure they will,.....$600 spacers )

If they can just ditch that abomination of a rear spoiler, then there is nothing I don't like.
Old 10-25-2017 | 11:55 PM
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Looks better and better every time I see it.
Old 10-26-2017 | 12:26 AM
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If that's the standard Carrera body the Turbo and G3RS are going to be wide af.
Old 10-26-2017 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by -Ryan-
If that's the standard Carrera body the Turbo and G3RS are going to be wide af.
As a C2 owner, I almost feel bad for those new fenders with how much of rock magnets they’ll be. Though the stone guards do a great job of protecting, there’s still plenty of exposed area. The 991 fenders in RWD form are already quite wide. I remember when the 991 came out, a picture of a 991 C2 and 997 C4 surfaced, and the 991 hips were wider. We may see the same thing here, with the 992 C2 having as wide as or wider hips than the 991 C4.
Old 10-26-2017 | 11:20 PM
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Looks are fine.
I hope the engine sounds better.
Old 10-27-2017 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bemo
Looks are fine.
I hope the engine sounds better.
Sounds the same as the 991.2 from the videos I’ve seen. I’d be surprised if there were many changes in the engine compartment.
Old 10-27-2017 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by stealthpilot
Agree but the one on the 911 Turbo looks great.
Yes the Turbo wing does looks great, but it's different from the others I mentioned as it doesn't 'disappear' when it's in its down position.



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