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Old 07-19-2017, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
Let's be realistic here, how freaking wide do you want the 911 to get?


Old 07-19-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by -Ryan-
The early carrera mules had that (antenna?) thing as well.



good catch. but seems an odd placement for an antenna, as it is not in a higher part of the bodywork. maybe they are just faking us out to let folks speculate and see what the reaction would be to a hybrid 992.

looking back at test mules, Porsche was testing the current 991.2 turbo motors back in 2014 out in the open with heavy cammo (if not earlier). point being that they might have been testing hybrid versions for a while in regular 911 as well.

this article is speculating that flap/bung in the rear passenger fender could be for plug-in purposes.. https://www.motor1.com/news/140606/2...-hybrid-spied/.

I think it would make sense to have an electrified 4S, where the front diff, etc. gets replaced with a small battery and small electric motors to create 4WD. such a package, assuming using state of the art (= lightweight) battery tech, could keep such a 4S package around the same weight of current gen 991.2 4S (+ 50 pounds or so).

my bet is that we will see a plug in hybrid 911 within 4 years time. 15-20 mi range electric only....a 918 light, if you will. the Mission E also comes out in about 3 years time, so they should have the battery/motor electric tech all sorted out by now.
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Originally Posted by dark knight
new car looks like a baby 959, now as for the electro dash, I hate you people who want a car to be an entertainment device, you are the ones that add this unnecessary crap and weight, 5 dials forever, real gauges! -the only fake thing I am wiling to touch is *****
I think that the new styling is absolutely... delicious. A full hipped 959ish Carrera. The wraparound taillight/reflector is the only nontrivial detractor for me.

I like the return to the long hood look.

As for the dash, my favorite gauge cluster is the E90 M3. Two big gauges with secondaries at the bottom, lights and tiny digital display in between. NO SCREENS. Perfect visibility.



I wish there were a 'screen delete package', as well as an 'NVH package'
(replace adaptive engine and trans mounts with solid pucks of aluminum, replace adaptive springs with traditional coilovers. Or DSSVs)

Perhaps combine the two into an 'analog package' it would please the simplicity loving purists, as well as allowing every tech fanboi to have his 12' touch screen.

Of course that would simply be too fcking logical.
Old 07-20-2017, 10:48 AM
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^^^ no - there is a very, very, very, good reason Porsche put a giant tach in the middle
Old 07-20-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by randr
^^^ no - there is a very, very, very, good reason Porsche put a giant tach in the middle
Exactly. A Tach, current gear and speedometer (in order of importance Everything, and all you need. All within inches of each other. Requires minimal scan time.

If I wanted a BMW instrument cluster; I wouldn't have traded it for the 911.
Old 07-20-2017, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
Let's be realistic here, how freaking wide do you want the 911 to get?
A 911 wears a big butt well. I'm only asking for few more inches, who would spot the difference anyway?
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Originally Posted by Benedict14
Exactly. A Tach, current gear and speedometer (in order of importance Everything, and all you need. All within inches of each other. Requires minimal scan time.

If I wanted a BMW instrument cluster; I wouldn't have traded it for the 911.
As I said, the two gauge layout is a favorite of mine. A personal preference.

If we're talking strictly Porsche gauges, why not a 3 gauge cluster. The two outboard gauges are damn near useless on the 5.
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also https://www.autogespot.com/porsche/2019-911/spots
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^^^^^ NICE FIND. BEST PICS YET

Boy that rear ended looks shorter and maybe longer wheelbase?

Look at side pics too. Big hips.

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Old 07-21-2017, 09:07 AM
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Is it me, or this car reminding you of an Audi and Aston Martin??
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Originally Posted by STG
Is it me, or this car reminding you of an Audi and Aston Martin??
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I'm starting to notice the subtle most pronounced changes (aside from slightly higher belt line, longer and more angular frunk hood and more visible shutlines at the frunk/bumper area).

The rear does seem significantly shorter in some pics. It looks less "rear engine" and more mid engine. The front overhangs also seem shorter perhaps. Most likely longer wheelbase, but what remains a mystery is if the car itself is longer. What we really need to see is a 991 next to it.

Thankfully, they're keeping it masterfully evolutionary. The 991 still looks so fresh, this looks more like a 991.3, which is a great thing if you ask me. The 911 is one of the only cars that can get away with classic-incredibly evolutionary styling (rendering all models timeless and modern). Glad to see Porsche sticking to this so well. Though I do think the 991 platform could and should have easily went another few years (which is slightly mitigated by them keeping the 992 so close to the 991).
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Thanks for the scan S!
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It might indeed be longer wheelbase, possibly to fit the mid engine v10 for shared platform gallardo and r8?


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