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Old 03-11-2017, 06:04 PM
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Wonder what comes after the 992

994?
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d View Post
Wonder what comes after the 992

994?
given the rate of technological change they might be hybrid or all electric when it comes to the next change, might feel the need to change the convention entirely
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Originally Posted by rk-d View Post
Wonder what comes after the 992

994?
994 has been used , but who knows , since they have recently resurrected decades-old typ numbers such as " 718 " and " 918"

my bet is on " 998 " for the 911s ( and " 988 " for the parallel Cayman/Boxster models ) after review of this table:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_type_numbers

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Originally Posted by MKW View Post
994 has been used , but who knows , since they have recently resurrected decades-okd typ numbers such as " 718 " and " 918"

my bet is on " 998 " after review of this table :



994 has been used , but who knows , since they have recently resurrected decades-okd typ numbers such as " 718 " and " 918"



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_type_numbers
That is an awesome list!

On another note...Porsche is running out of numbers...
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:46 PM
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How much longer will Porsche even make a 911? Most of their sales come from SUVs and sedans and a lot of people now are excited about becoming full time passengers with ride sharing or autonomous cars.

If Porsche makes a sedan/SUV that's autonomous and faster at everything than a sports car you can drive yourself will people think that things like "feel", "experience", and "sound" are outdated, like with people buying automatic sports cars since it generates faster numbers?
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How much longer will Porsche even make a 911? Most of their sales come from SUVs and sedans and a lot of people now are excited about becoming full time passengers with ride sharing or autonomous cars.

If Porsche makes a sedan/SUV that's autonomous and faster at everything than a sports car you can drive yourself will people think that things like "feel", "experience", and "sound" are outdated, like with people buying automatic sports cars since it generates faster numbers?
Without the 911, Porsche is just another luxury SUV/sedan company, which wouldn't be very special at all...
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Man had a passion for driving and the whole experience. Let them say what they want about self driving solar electric eco cars. The consumer has the loudest voice and buying power. We like our freedom.
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Originally Posted by maxpowers View Post
How much longer will Porsche even make a 911? Most of their sales come from SUVs and sedans and a lot of people now are excited about becoming full time passengers with ride sharing or autonomous cars.

If Porsche makes a sedan/SUV that's autonomous and faster at everything than a sports car you can drive yourself will people think that things like "feel", "experience", and "sound" are outdated, like with people buying automatic sports cars since it generates faster numbers?
Look up the term "halo cars". The 911 is a critical car for Porsche is this regard. Even though the sales numbers for 911s are small, they also have a much larger profit margin on them that any of their other cars, so they are still raking it in pretty nicely on these too. There was a thread a couple of years ago where this came up. Not counting the dealers and others involved, Porsche corporate was averaging something approaching $26k per car profit on a 911..
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Originally Posted by STG
Man had a passion for driving and the whole experience. Let them say what they want about self driving solar electric eco cars. The consumer has the loudest voice and buying power. We like our freedom.
This!
I will NOT buy cars any longer if those are our only options...
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Soon the Panny/Cayenne will have the visuals and sound of a video game 911 where you virtually drive yourself around the ring or whatever track you want (or watch virtual fish tanks/****/whatever) while the electric self driving car takes you to your destination.
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Man had a passion for driving and the whole experience. Let them say what they want about self driving solar electric eco cars. The consumer has the loudest voice and buying power. We like our freedom.
I thought about this concept wrt self-driving cars earlier this year. If you look at most of our science fiction through the years, despite great advances in computerized technology foreseen by the authors, the hero was still in control of the vehicle/ship. Capt. Kirk barks orders to Sulu or whoever the driver was and he executes at "the helm." In I Robot Will Smith dares to take the car off autopilot and drive it himself and gets yelled at by the computer. And when we leave it totally to the machines, we get HAL going bonkers in 2001. Often, in dystopian futures the despotic overlords are whisked through thes sky in autonomous ships while the ragtag freedom fighters always pilot their own contraptions: think the future humans vs. The Machines in Terminator movies, or Star Wars rebel pilots.

It seems a big part of our self-determination story revolves around the freedom of mobility, and an important element of that is the self-determination of being at "the helm" or "the wheel" ourselves.

And I'm not saying the SF authors actually think we WILL be driving ourselves in the future, so much as they recognize the importance to the story of having the hero drive it himself. Because the consumers of the story think that's such an important element of the humanity, maybe even the heroism, of the story.
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Man had a passion for driving and the whole experience. Let them say what they want about self driving solar electric eco cars. The consumer has the loudest voice and buying power. We like our freedom.
As someone who loves driving sports cars I would hope this will continue to be the case. It's just a bit discouraging when I talk to people that couldn't care less about driving and seem happy to let the machines take over. Even so called enthusiast seem more enamored with numbers than actually enjoying the car.
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Man had a passion for driving and the whole experience. Let them say what they want about self driving solar electric eco cars. The consumer has the loudest voice and buying power. We like our freedom.
that's true of our generation but the millennials aren't driving for various reasons (cost, unwanted responsibility, the internet, etc.) and will affect demand & ultimately supply. furthermore, in places where public transportation isn't already ubiquitous and population density will never justify it, services such as uber 2.0 via self-driving cars will force manufacturers to follow the demand or become exorbitantly priced niche products. the current versions of highly priced niche cars, such as the 911, will be the first casualties. manufacturers like porsche are enthusiast brands and the millennials just aren't enthusiastic about the driving experience.
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The millennials like retro things. They will discover driving when they get jobs, make money, and move out of the basement.
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