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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 12:36 PM
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I daily both my 911, in all weather and road conditions.

Possibly the dirtiest GT3RS out there that has 0 track hours...

Yes, we have an island in the SF Bay Area called Bacon Island and it is NOT fully paved.


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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 12:46 PM
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You've got the 4S no? Won't be a problem in the slightest. The only time in my T I slipped was when I tried hitting the apexes in Turn 1 and 11 and hit the white pit out/pit in painted lines.
Yes it’s a 4S. Still trying to wrap my head around the handling of the Targa. After driving Boxster’s for 17 years and really understanding how they handle it’s a big change. Didn’t get much of a chance to play with it this past summer. Hope to be able to get some better experiences next summer. Not that I really want track time but more skilled training with an instructor.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 12:52 PM
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Rain, some slow dirt roads, cold weather and the car doesn't care one bit.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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Join a local auto club and get some seat time at a track with an instructor. It will sharpen your skills immensely. Trackmasters may run at Road America, Chicago PCA probably does as well. https://pca-chicago.org/wp-content/u...vent-Guide.pdf
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 12:58 PM
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Not my car. Just making the point that your Carrera doesn't need babying.




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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 01:13 PM
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My 992.2 4GTS handled the gnarliest hailstorm I've ever seen. I was so worried about my window breaking, I never even noticed I was driving on a sea of ice golfballs. Not sure how much to attribute to the 4WD, or brand new tires. The car was only 2 days old when this happened. 6,000 miles and 6 months now, and I love this car and might just throw all-seasons on it.
Reminds me of a time we had a freak Hailstorm here on Long Island- Tea cup size hail- everyone stopped under an underpass leaving the rest of us stranded. The clonking on the roof and hood was daunting. I watched a rear window on a nearby Mercedes implode. Drove right to my body shop as I knew he'd be busy- He had many totaled cars mine was a 17k repair - this was 12 years ago- My white Carrera looked like a Titleist. 1100 cars at the hospital parking lot were damaged
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rdboxster
If I’m driving the Targa or need to go someplace I don’t worry about the rain. Still learning about wet mode which seems like a very interesting feature. It also depends on where I’m driving, in the city I’ll try not to take the Targa. Rain raises the odds of stupid accidents in urban traffic. In the country, where we spend much of the summer, I would be more inclined to drive intentionally in the rain. So far I am impressed with the Targa on wet roads but still cautious with the Goodyears. Just don’t have a comfort feeling with them yet. The Boxster had the Michelins which were very good on wet roads.
This is just my personal opinion, but you will never understand car control nor improve your skills with the nannies on. Right now you are depending on the car driving for you while you point the way with the steering wheel.

As others have already said, go do Porsche club autocross. It's the safest and an effective way to build confidence in your car and your driving skills.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 01:57 PM
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My previous 4S’s did great in rain. No problems.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marv
This is just my personal opinion, but you will never understand car control nor improve your skills with the nannies on. Right now you are depending on the car driving for you while you point the way with the steering wheel.

As others have already said, go do Porsche club autocross. It's the safest and an effective way to build confidence in your car and your driving skills.
I’ve had the Boxsters, and previous Audis, on the track several times including adverse weather conditions. Not a track junky but I’ve learn how to handle them. I plan to get serious time in next year as the dynamics and power of the Targa is very different. Just didn’t work out this past summer.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Marv
This is just my personal opinion, but you will never understand car control nor improve your skills with the nannies on. Right now you are depending on the car driving for you while you point the way with the steering wheel.

As others have already said, go do Porsche club autocross. It's the safest and an effective way to build confidence in your car and your driving skills.
That is bad advice-you think you're an F1 driver? Even they have had traction control and a bevy of electronic nannies that kept them competitive. I was at a DE this past Spring and a guy with a brand new ZR1 was "inspired" to turn off the nannies. He totaled his car coming out of Turn 8 at the Glen and by his own admission, said he wished he had left the nannies on. First day of 2, first session of 6.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilder
Wet mode is a life saver.
I was doing 90 in the rain and suddenly crossed a patch of slick pavement with off camber turn.
The car lost traction and swung three times to each side.
I know how to control the car well and would love to take credit for the save but I could feel the traction control and TPV helping.
First time I fully appreciated modern electronic safety features.

Also, Michellin guy for years here.
GY are as good if not better than Michellins in some ways.
They do have a quicker drop off but I've been pleasantly surprised.
I'll go back to Michellins when the time comes but if I had to buy them again, it wouldn't bother me.
Sounds like a bit of luck, skill and the Porsche saved you. Lots to reign in at 90 mph in the rain. I do love when the car suggests to use Wet Mode, good you were using it.

I too have been pleased with the GYs. They seem to be right in between Michelin and Pirelli (I've had both brands) in comfort, as good as the Michelin in traction and not nearly as bad in moderately cold weather. The Pirellis were just plain awful on cold mornings. I thought the Pirellis had good directional stability and steering feel, but the GYs are pretty good. Lets see how long they last.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 08:47 PM
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Pirellis great on track, lousy on tread life; Michelins fantastic on track/street and in the rain. No experience with Goodyears but would not buy them, not enough high level racing experience (F1, WEC, IMSA). Besides, Hurley Haywood said to me that he liked Michelins over any other tire.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 09:19 PM
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@PJ Cayenne @Scott P here's a thread I started on the subject of tires.
I was so upset I got GY, I was considering selling them to get MPS4S before I even got the car.
After 1,200 mi, I was sold.
At 12k mi, I still feel the same but there's a chance MPS4S last longer.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1350...-sport-4s.html
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Pirellis great on track, lousy on tread life; Michelins fantastic on track/street and in the rain. No experience with Goodyears but would not buy them, not enough high level racing experience (F1, WEC, IMSA). Besides, Hurley Haywood said to me that he liked Michelins over any other tire.
I did think the Pirellis were better than the Michelins on the track. The Ps were lousy everywhere else. The Michelins were a bit quieter and offered a better ride. I cooked a set of Michelins after long a track day, the tread surface melted and shifted. Not sure why, but I have very limited experience, just telling what happened. I do think the GYs have a good balance between the other two.

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@PJ Cayenne @Scott P here's a thread I started on the subject of tires.
I was so upset I got GY, I was considering selling them to get MPS4S before I even got the car.
After 1,200 mi, I was sold.
At 12k mi, I still feel the same but there's a chance MPS4S last longer.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1350...-sport-4s.html
Thanks for the link. Your rears will wear out first. so you will likely dispose of a decent set of front GYs, but then again nothing practical about Porsche ownership. I dumped my first set of Pirellis at 11k, the fronts had another 20k of life left.
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Old Nov 13, 2025 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PJ Cayenne
Thanks for the link. Your rears will wear out first. so you will likely dispose of a decent set of front GYs, but then again nothing practical about Porsche ownership. I dumped my first set of Pirellis at 11k, the fronts had another 20k of life left.
I'm actually going Cup2s with new wheels.
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