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Default 992.2 C2 0-60 Discrepancy

Just saw this video from AutoNL:

Looks like their Dragy showed 0-100km/h at around 3.75s.

Car and Driver however showed the 992.1 C2 does it repeatedly at 3.2s: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

This seems like quite a large discrepancy despite the .2 being slightly up in HP. Is this due to roll out, tires, pavement, km/h vs mph? Is the AutoNL driver not pushing as hard to make the GTS look better?






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Who cares?

I've never not enjoyed a car, or enjoyed a car more, because of something like 0.5 seconds.
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Porsche quotes 3.7 seconds 0-60, and they are said to be very conservative. A lot of folks on the forums have said Car & Drivers 3.2 must have been downhill with a tailwind or something, but I'll be very happy if I get 3.7 on mine.

The initial reviews have been wonderful for the base (all on Porsche's press day - we'll need to wait until the '25s get here for more evidently)
https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews...t-drive-review
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...carrera-drive/
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...-drive-review/
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Same old schmutz keeps coming back:

100km/h equals 62.15mph, it takes ~0.2s to accelerate from 60mph to 62.15mph

American publication subtract a one foot roll out from acceleration times while Euro publications do not. That is worth another 0.2~0.3s

C&D correct their results for ambient conditions, AutoTopNL obviously do not.

Test to test / car to car variations.

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If 0-60 times are important to you, buy an EV. Anything around 4 sec or less is “fast”. These cars need launch control get to that number. In the real world, there are precious few opportunities to use that launch control.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
. In the real world, there are precious few opportunities to use that launch control.
+1. I have owned 4 different Porsches with PDK, Sport Chrono and launch control and tracked all of them occasionally. I have never once needed to use, or used, launch control on any of them.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
If 0-60 times are important to you, buy an EV. Anything around 4 sec or less is “fast”. These cars need launch control get to that number. In the real world, there are precious few opportunities to use that launch control.
+1. I also think Nürburgring lap times are patently irrelevant for how we REALLY use and drive our cars.
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Originally Posted by tbo12
+1. I also think Nürburgring lap times are patently irrelevant for how we REALLY use and drive our cars.
Politely disagree with this on behalf of the track crowd. The 'Ring times can be extrapolated to how different cars will perform on the tracks one drives. They're useful data in that context.

I do agree that all modern Porsche sports cars have such high performance ceilings that these numbers are irrelevant on public roads. Even a base Boxster will get you into 'arrest me' speeds very quickly.
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Originally Posted by ldamelio
Politely disagree with this on behalf of the track crowd. The 'Ring times can be extrapolated to how different cars will perform on the tracks one drives. They're useful data in that context.

I do agree that all modern Porsche sports cars have such high performance ceilings that these numbers are irrelevant on public roads. Even a base Boxster will get you into 'arrest me' speeds very quickly.
thats the point; most of us don’t have a track we drive rather use ours on roads.
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Originally Posted by ldamelio
Politely disagree with this on behalf of the track crowd. The 'Ring times can be extrapolated to how different cars will perform on the tracks one drives. They're useful data in that context.

I do agree that all modern Porsche sports cars have such high performance ceilings that these numbers are irrelevant on public roads. Even a base Boxster will get you into 'arrest me' speeds very quickly.
The Ring is as relevant to Lime Rock and Palmer as Swiss cheese is to cottage cheese.
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I care more about the feeling of thrust when I hit the gas than what the 0-60 times are.
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Originally Posted by Staffie Guy
I care more about the feeling of thrust when I hit the gas than what the 0-60 times are.
Exactly and what to expect there is best indicated by 1/4 mile trap MPH. A sports car that traps 125 vs another at 115 is going to be waaaaay more fun to drive on the street. Trap MPH is an indicator of power. I really doubt that more than a handfull of 911 owners are regularly using their "launch control" for ***** to the wall hole shots on the street. Many of us never use this gimmick.
A C2 992.1 vs a C2 992.2 are going to show very similar times if a multitude of other factors can be standardized such as same driver, same track surface, same day, same atmospheric conditions, 1 ft roll out(or not). There are many variables here. The C2 992.2 is not going to be .5-.6 seconds slower 0-60 MPH than the C2 992.1.
Another thing that some of us forget or are unaware of is the fact that drag strip times 60ft., 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile etc. incorporate a 1 ft rollout as a result of the timing beams. The vehicle has moved that 1 foot before the clock starts ticking.

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Probably because 100 km/h is 62, not 60 mph
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Originally Posted by alaris
Probably because 100 km/h is 62, not 60 mph
There are many who do not realize this. 0-100 KPH is usually .2 seconds longer than 0-60.
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Originally Posted by Lk1
The Ring is as relevant to Lime Rock and Palmer as Swiss cheese is to cottage cheese.
Bingo.

The Ring is a track like no other. Heck, it's not really even a track, but a like a long highway with different elevation changes and sometimes different climates.

To say that one can extrapolate Ring times to any other tack in the world is like saying I can extrapolate the price of A5 Kobe beef to what a White Castle burger should taste like.
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