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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jockey
Interesting. I'm about to trade in my 992 (which I got CPO) and the dealership is quoting around $3300 is their cost for another CPO inspection before they can turn the car around.
I always love those conversations. An unfazed "wow, that's impressive" from me and change the subject.
They'll beat you up on trade-in value, then make a lot more on sales of a CPO vs non.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jockey
Interesting. I'm about to trade in my 992 (which I got CPO) and the dealership is quoting around $3300 is their cost for another CPO inspection before they can turn the car around.
CPO cost comprised of two things. Cost of immediate maintenance to bring car up to CPO standards (brake pad thickness, tire tread depth, serpentine belt due, brake fluid refresh, etc.) and premium to Porsche to extend warranty two years. The dealer knows me and that my cars never need any immediate maintenance so they want them. But, CPO can be costly if the trade in needs a bunch of routine maintenance that has been deferred (tires, plugs, brakes, etc.).

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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by white6speed
A Porsche store has serious requirements for technicians and required equipment and tools. Ask a dealer principal how much money they spend on diagnostic equipment and tools is annually. A non Porsche store may not have those requirements and standards. Example Porsche early this year changed the oil requirements for newer GT CARS. What oil is the non Porsche store using. Where all service done and required would matter to me.
This is complete bollocks and exactly the FUD that dealers would want you to believe. At many dealers the techs that do basic maintenance are the lowest on the food chain. The only thing you’ll get from a dealer are absurdly inflated prices on every day meat and potatoes operations.

My strong guidance is to develop a lasting relationship with a quality independent - you won’t be sorry
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:26 PM
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The only person at any dealership with less experience than the guy changing oil is the guy washing cars.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
The only person at any dealership with less experience than the guy changing oil is the guy washing cars.
You mean the "detailers" at your local Porsche dealer are not certified professional wax-ologists? Some of these guys are crack head HS drop outs that were 2nd shift Whopper floppers last month.

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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunky
You mean the "detailers" at your local Porsche dealer are not certified professional wax-ologists? Some of these guys are crack head HS drop outs that were 2nd shift Whopper floppers last month.
Sir, the correct term is porter, or lot technician.

Both jobs I held in high school.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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Over the years I have learned to never underestimate the incompetence of other people working on my stuff. The only way I'm not doing something myself is if It's not reasonable for me to acquire the necessary equipment to do a good job.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Sir, the correct term is porter, or lot technician.

Both jobs I held in high school.
LOL, so did I and we were certainly not considered "technicians" of any kind.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike818
Over the years I have learned to never underestimate the incompetence of other people working on my stuff. The only way I'm not doing something myself is if It's not reasonable for me to acquire the necessary equipment to do a good job.
It could not be said much better than this.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 08:32 PM
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LOL, so did I and we were certainly not considered "technicians" of any kind.
And the correct term for the 18 year old “porter” who then gets promoted to change oil and repair, mount and balance tires is “grease monkey”. Ask me how I know.
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by white6speed
A Porsche store has serious requirements for technicians and required equipment and tools. Ask a dealer principal how much money they spend on diagnostic equipment and tools is annually. A non Porsche store may not have those requirements and standards. Example Porsche early this year changed the oil requirements for newer GT CARS. What oil is the non Porsche store using. Where all service done and required would matter to me.
My Porsche dealer put 5W-30 in my car which calls for C40! So much for the dealer service. I service both myself but would take a good Indy over any Porsche dealer. I not concerned with resale value.

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Old Aug 5, 2024 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
And the correct term for the 18 year old “porter” who then gets promoted to change oil and repair, mount and balance tires is “grease monkey”. Ask me how I know.
Oh yeah, went that route also working thru high school, college, graduate school. Started as a "lot boy" at a Chrysler/Plymouth dealer then gas pumper/oil changer at a service station and quickly began doing tune ups, brake jobs, and just about anything shy of internal transmission work. That stuff was so simple back then.
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Since oil has been mentioned throughout this thread, instead of me posting yet another oil thread, I'll ask here: What is considered the BEST for our 911's. Period. Mine is a new 24 T. I know Porsche has been in bed with Mobil 1 for a long time but is Mobil 1 the best for our cars? Thx.

Disclaimer: I NEVER allow any dealer on my cars to use bulk tank oil.

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Old Aug 5, 2024 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Sir, the correct term is porter, or lot technician.

Both jobs I held in high school.
LMAO...this is gettin' good
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Old Aug 5, 2024 | 02:03 PM
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I have used an indy for last 5 or 6 years for everything that my 13 year old 991.1 needs. Owner is an ex-P Car mechanic who has stolen (hired) others to work for him.
Funny thing. I was just mailed an offer to save $100.00 on a genuine oil change from my dealer. What does that tell ya?
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