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Old 05-14-2024, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by melhechi
I think LSD only, PTV is available only on the Manual T, I have checked the specification sheets of all the trim levels. The S and GTS have the PTV+.

I do not think that PTV is available on the PDK for the Base and T.
My understanding matched @Wilder's but the verbiage differs in these press releases, so now I'm not sure (I have a 7MT, so I never thought about it before):

USA press release (does not specify transmission):
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2...ere-30090.html

Note the language: The T variant also utilizes the mechanical limited slip differential with Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) that is standard on the 911 Carrera S and is not available for the 911 Carrera.

Australia (specifies 7MT only):
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_AU/2...hts-32961.html

Note the language:
The 911 Carrera T is fitted with Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) and a mechanical rear differential lock when specified with the seven-speed manual transmission.

Could it differ by USA v. ROW?

Also, the US press release clearly states PTV on the T is the same as on the Carrera S.
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Interesting, I was to the understanding that ALL Carrera T’s regardless of transmission have the exact same features like PASM PTV etc…
Old 05-14-2024, 11:34 AM
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Thanks everyone! Decided to move forward and placed my order last night. Today, will be receiving a set of Litespeed RS5RR Mag+ wheels that will be fitted with 255/315 PS4s to help with grip. Will post impressions/pics once everything is done.

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you're going to love it!
Old 05-15-2024, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Risley
Interesting, I was to the understanding that ALL Carrera T’s regardless of transmission have the exact same features like PASM PTV etc…
I have a 2024 T. All T’s regardless of transmission are equipped with SPASM and PTV. Only the manual has a mechanical limited slip differential. The PDK comes with the PTV+ version of PTV instead of the limited slip diff. PTV is identical on the S and T when equipped with the same transmissions. SPASM is optional on the S.

Essentially a T gives you and S chassis, and a manual transmission option, with the base engine.

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Old 05-15-2024, 09:14 AM
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I’m curious to see how a T handles traction after going stage 3/4 or with GTS turbos.
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Originally Posted by cgaites
I have a 2024 T. All T’s regardless of transmission are equipped with SPASM and PTV. Only the manual has a mechanical limited slip differential. The PDK comes with the PTV+ version of PTV instead of the limited slip diff. PTV is identical on the S and T when equipped with the same transmissions. SPASM is optional on the S.

Essentially a T gives you and S chassis, and a manual transmission option, with the base engine.
Thanks man,

I couldn't find clarification anywhere, the verbiage was confusing on what I did find. So.....a PDK T does indeed have Porsche Torque Vectoring? I know the PDK T has PASM and electronic LSD.

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Old 05-15-2024, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueblazer
I’m curious to see how a T handles traction after going stage 3/4 or with GTS turbos.
There is no reason a T can’t handle GTS turbo with stock GTS tune. The only things different between a T and GTS are the turbos and helper springs.
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Old 05-15-2024, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sekiro
There is no reason a T can’t handle GTS turbo with stock GTS tune. The only things different between a T and GTS are the turbos and helper springs.
With GTS level power it’s not an issue. I’m curious how traction is when we get up to S/GTS Stage 1 (545whp/545wtq) and higher power levels. The stock PS4S are good but wonder how much need there will be for Cup 2’s or similar tire on the street. Especially for me here in Florida where it downpours without warning.
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Originally Posted by Risley
Thanks man,

I couldn't find clarification anywhere, the verbiage was confusing on what I did find. So.....a PDK T does indeed have Porsche Torque Vectoring? I know the PDK T has PASM and electronic LSD.
Yes, a PDK T has what Porsche calls PTV+. PTV+ is normal PTV (which brakes individual wheels to vector torque) as well as an e-diff capability to regulate axel speeds on both sides of the car independently (essentially replicating a limited slip diff). The manual T has PTV (again, which brakes individual wheels), but relies on an actual mechanical limited slip diff to regulate axel speeds. Two ways of accomplishing the same thing. FWIW, Porsche does not claim either way is superior to the other performance wise.

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Old 05-15-2024, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sekiro
The only things different between a T and GTS are the turbos and helper springs.

@Wilder

😂

So it’s basically a GTS.
Old 05-15-2024, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
@Wilder

😂

So it’s basically a GTS.
Right? It's that simple. I wish I would have known before I bought my GTS. Dang.
Old 05-15-2024, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Master Deep
With GTS level power it’s not an issue. I’m curious how traction is when we get up to S/GTS Stage 1 (545whp/545wtq) and higher power levels. The stock PS4S are good but wonder how much need there will be for Cup 2’s or similar tire on the street. Especially for me here in Florida where it downpours without warning.
Well on my S with M-eng stage2, traction is still realllly good with 911-spec PS4S tires under WOT. Never felt the need for Cup 2’s for street applications.
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Master Deep
With GTS level power it’s not an issue. I’m curious how traction is when we get up to S/GTS Stage 1 (545whp/545wtq) and higher power levels. The stock PS4S are good but wonder how much need there will be for Cup 2’s or similar tire on the street. Especially for me here in Florida where it downpours without warning.
Not sure if other tuners do this, but it looks like APR keeps stock power in wet mode on their engine software.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
@Wilder

😂

So it’s basically a GTS.
Home brew GTS, baby GT3, base Carrera with stickers.... or maybe it's a T.


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