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This will be interesting. I would guess (for the most part) that 911 enthusiasts are a somewhat "mature" cohort that identifies more with the ICE only platform. As mentioned in a different thread, I have no intrest in the hybrid platform regardless of ring time or other performance measures.
I’m curious to see the power train. PCA report is thinking the GTS hybrid system is similar to the 919 with rapid discharge over 10-20s and then regenerate with braking and possibly exhaust gasses.
More than 3.1 million miles have been driven on the new power train from hot to cold areas so it’s well tested.
They have been moving it upmarket slowly for years. My identical car is $20,000 more with the same options after only 3 years, and that’s without factoring ADM.
Good articles, but shouldn't they be comparing the lap times to the GTS, and not the S? I believe its going to be the GTS trim in the lineup that gets the full hybrid in the 992.2, the S is going to be a mild hybrid (we think) which adds no performance benefit.
Everyone is going upmarket with their cars, $75K pickup trucks, etc. So this is no surprise. I still say the 992.2 is going to be an uneven transition to hybrids, because the full hybrid drivetrains are going to be split amongst the trim levels, as opposed to the 994 generation which will surely be all hybrid (except the GT cars). But you have to start someplace, and a lot of buyers want the latest and greatest and are comfortable being testers for a new product - we need buyers like that.
I’m curious to see the power train. PCA report is thinking the GTS hybrid system is similar to the 919 with rapid discharge over 10-20s and then regenerate with braking and possibly exhaust gasses.
More than 3.1 million miles have been driven on the new power train from hot to cold areas so it’s well tested.
Depends on how many cars and how high they went for the miles on each. One number doesn't tell the entire story.
The Devil, as usual, will be in the details: The ICE Engine it uses, the Torque Numbers for the ICE Engine and the EV Motor, Battery Size in kWh, System Voltage and the MSRP of course. I've had and currently have two EV's as our Daily's. If Porsche does it right and I hope they do, an EV Motor can make up for a lot of an ICE Engines shortfalls and vice versa. This is particularly true with turbocharged engines.
The video on the Porsche Newsroom Website is actually OK visually. It's not particularly informative technically. But with all the pictures of the rear of the car there seems to be a shortage of the front. So I did a quick screen shot of the beginning frame of their video and fiddled with the lighting a bit. TBH, I'm not a real fan of the vertical cooling system vents.
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Speaking of brands going upscale I believe the reason is purely due to the cost of making Hybrid vehicles.
Trucks, cars and SUVs are all going up in price by all manufacturers and I feel its because they will make it easier for folks to transition into a Hybrid by saying "look your Silverado is priced at $85k which is a normal gas guzzler and so for another $5k more we can get you into the new hybrid Silverado..."
If they bridge the gap now and a few more years that gap decreases and its purely an optical illusion.
As for the 911, so glad I bought my 24 T. I've had a Hybrid supercar (17 NSX) and its neat going fast but doesn't make up for the feeling and sensation and sound of a manual.
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The video on the Porsche Newsroom Website is actually OK visually. It's not particularly informative technically. But with all the pictures of the rear of the car there seems to be a shortage of the front. So I did a quick screen shot of the beginning frame of their video and fiddled with the lighting a bit. TBH, I'm not a real fan of the vertical cooling system vents.
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It’s obvious Porsche selectively doctored the video to darken the intakes on the cars shown.
If you look carefully, the front grill area on all the cars in the video looks unnaturally dark, even accounting for the natural shadows and lighting in the scenes.
Your adjustments confirm what we have come to expect based on spy shots.
I find the new car substantially better looking than the current version. I'm particularly jealous of the rear grill and the GT3esque rear (SD?) bumper and center exhaust. They seem to have removed the overly bubbly but and the ugly amount of black plastic in the lower section. I bought black in large part to have the front and rear black plastic sections camouflage.
05-13-2024 | 09:18 AM
May 28 - Hybrid 911 Debut
