Denny Swift

I wonder if/how these new "guidelines" will work in the 992.2. IMO, the PCM in the 992.1 is a complete disaster. And that's not hyperbole. It's so complex, buggy and layered that it's not possible to operate it safely while driving (not possible for me, anyway). Frankly, I don't understand how non-911 tolerate it. In the sports cars, we tolerate it because the cars are great to drive. But who would put up with it in a family hauler? The interior on my Spyder is simple and great. Frankly, my 992 just doesn't give me the same pleasure. Not even close because the PCM in the 992 is just such a mess. I shouldn't have to make excuses for the 992, but i do. If you search, you'll find that Taycan, Macan, Panamera, and Cayenne owners all have PCM frustration. But, these new "rules" are only guidelines so, Porsche is unlikely to do anything. The .2 is probably already finished. It's just so absurd that a car that is the very essence of driving engagement requires significantly more eyes-off-the-road time than any vehicle I've ever experienced.

Spoiler up? Give me a button. A.S.S. off? Give me a button. Rev match, change music source, open garage door? Give me a button. Even the dial for Sport/S+ is stupid IMO. I'd much rather have a button on the console. It will be interesting to see what Porsche does with the .2. My guess is that it will be even worse.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/new-car-interior-touchscreen-euro-ncap-safety-testing/

CanAutM3

You can customize your PCM home screen to include most of the “buttons” you mention…

mattchow

install an exhaust and downpipes, turn off all the bs and just drive.

Johnauto

992.2 will have 99% the same interior as the 992.1.

shelbyking

Exactly, couldn't agree with you more. No reason for a HP sports car to be a sound studio and internet cafe on wheels. Ridiculous junk and some can't seem to live without it. Put your damn phone somewhere you can't see it while you are at it.

jlegelis

I just boot to Carplay and spend almost 100% of my time there. I did the full screen Carplay update which makes it even better.. sure the PCM stuff is a necessary evil for certain things, but on a daily basis I'm almost never in there. I guess it depends on one's UI philosophy: button clutter for seldom used features vs. 'information hiding' and soft buttons depending on preferences. FWIW my garage door is configured to open with the 'joker' button on the steering wheel, while the button on the dash is configured for surround view which is a good combo. YMMV.

rk-d

Porsche doesn't want buttons because buttons aren't sexy. And it's probably cheaper not to have buttons.

PCM has never been good, I'm willing to bet the 992.2 PCM will suck as well. Honestly, Porsche ergonomics have always been screwed up - try to decipher the logic behind some of the hieroglyphics and button placement in an air cooled car. It's ridiculous. In the old cars it's charming because you can largely ignore it. That's hard to do in the newer ones.

null

I'm with you on this.

The trend in car interface design sucks. It reminds me of the 90s when website designers started using Flash, and it was just Flash Flash Flash, for the sake of using Flash. The technology became an end in itself, and was abused until people finally realized there was no real reason to use it, and then it disappeared.

The whole touch screen craze / fad in automotive interface design needs to die. Physical controls like buttons, *****, and switches support muscle memory-based use, and allow drivers to control things without ever taking their eyes off the road. Sure, it makes sense to use screens / menus for certain things (putting the car into a service position, or clearing some faults, changing tire pressure readings, etc.), but the tail seems to be wagging the dog at this point, when it comes to digitization of driver / car interfaces...

shelbyking

I must be some kind of an odd ball outlier who has no need for the many layers and levels of all this whiz bang stuff in a car. You can actually live a perfectly normal life without an $8,000 stereo upgrade, apple car play, bluetooth everything, stock market alerts from your car, or being relentlessly bombarded with every kind of information imagineable.
A person who really has no need for any of that stuff like myself must be a real caveman in this "digital world".

Staffie Guy

No reason why a HP sports car can't have a great sound system and other nice amenities for those of us who are not trying to wring out the last tenth of a second of speed.

CodyBigdog

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CodyBigdog

Exactly.

brownan

While the 992 is cool, this is why 997 values will continue to climb...

Denny Swift

Evidently I’m not the only Luddite.

https://www.thedrive.com/tech/39304/...-hazardous-fad

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...out-of-control

https://www.ala.co.uk/connect/in-car...r-drug-driving

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...reasingly-nope

https://jalopnik.com/touchscreens-in...ure-1833553621

https://www.lifewire.com/phone-apps-...creens-7564478

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/fea...ll-using-them/

https://www.makeuseof.com/car-touchscreens-bad-idea/

https://futurism.com/the-byte/car-to...s-buttons-back

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...to-safely-use/

https://www.hagerty.com/media/maintenance-and-tech/why-touchscreens-are-infecting-everything/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40949962/car-buttons-easier-than-touchscreens-study/

https://www.economist.com/science-an...ing-distracted

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/touc...driving/69529/

https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/to...eep-my-buttons

https://futurism.com/the-byte/study-...n-touchscreens

https://www.farrin.com/blog/technolo...g-on-the-rise/

http://www.drivingandlife.com/2020/0...s-by-john.html

https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/o...-are-a-menace/

CodyBigdog

The media are like hungry sharks…always looking for something to feast on. Name a topic…any topic…and guarantee there are plenty of articles on the topic.