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Old 02-28-2024 | 09:21 AM
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Really, I already have a 22C2S that I am very happy with. This is for a good friend that scored a Targa build for summer delivery. His first 911. I've talked him through it but he does not believe everything I advise him so we agreed to put here and let the forum critique. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRS1UNA2

Old 02-28-2024 | 09:26 AM
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Looks like a very nice build to me.
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Lots of indications that this is a newbie build. Here are my thoughts.
  • $182k and still the standard wheels? Go with the Carrera Exclusives
  • No 911 needs PDCC
  • Take the money that you save on PDCC and upgrade to the Burmester, because a $182k build deserves better than the Bose.
  • Why carbon fiber for the window triangles and no carbon anywhere else? Ditch that. It's garish
  • The thing is all black and murdered out. I would strongly consider keeping the Targa bar in Silver for that classic look. Dealer will want a real deposit on this one as "murdered out" is not a common Targa spec.
  • The world has enough black 911s. Consider getting it in a real color.
  • They're spending over $3k on nonsense to make it all monochrome. If they decide to go with a color, reconsider some of those options.
  • If you can now get PCCBs on a Targa 4S, do it.
  • Skip the locking wheel bolts. They don't stop anyone and just lead to potential frustration.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 09:37 AM
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I personally think the 18 ways feel and fit a lot better than the 14 ways which are very flat and more Honda like.
Would also suggest the leather sunvisors. And don't feel like the PDCC is necessary.
Old 02-28-2024 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 991Esq
Really, I already have a 22C2S that I am very happy with. This is for a good friend that scored a Targa build for summer delivery. His first 911. I've talked him through it but he does not believe everything I advise him so we agreed to put here and let the forum critique. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRS1UNA2
Go with all carbon or none at all. Might as well get high gloss or satin black s wheels if going all black. Needs some color inside. Maybe red seat belts or something. No pdcc.
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Suggestions:

Get the brushed aluminum inlays as it will brighten up the interior.
If you are into music, get the Burmester-much better than the Bose
Get the 18 way seats-looks and fits better
Get the Carrera Classic wheels-too much silver for your all black targa.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 11:26 AM
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Needs black wheels.

Posting for a friend.
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this configuration is sad…it looks like a vehicle for death beginner

Ajouter de la couleur à l’intérieur…. Ceinture couleur….siège bi-color….grille d’aération de couleur… ajoutez le L’aluminium. Sinon votre voiture ressemblera à un corbillard pour des enterrements !
sans rancune c’est juste mon avis.

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Originally Posted by detansinn
Lots of indications that this is a newbie build. Here are my thoughts.
  • $182k and still the standard wheels? Go with the Carrera Exclusives
  • No 911 needs PDCC
  • Take the money that you save on PDCC and upgrade to the Burmester, because a $182k build deserves better than the Bose.
  • Why carbon fiber for the window triangles and no carbon anywhere else? Ditch that. It's garish
  • The thing is all black and murdered out. I would strongly consider keeping the Targa bar in Silver for that classic look. Dealer will want a real deposit on this one as "murdered out" is not a common Targa spec.
  • The world has enough black 911s. Consider getting it in a real color.
  • They're spending over $3k on nonsense to make it all monochrome. If they decide to go with a color, reconsider some of those options.
  • If you can now get PCCBs on a Targa 4S, do it.
  • Skip the locking wheel bolts. They don't stop anyone and just lead to potential frustration.
When I saw the 4th thing that said black I pretty much stopped. Why even both with Sport Design front fascia on a black build. This build is a waste.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 991Esq
Really, I already have a 22C2S that I am very happy with. This is for a good friend that scored a Targa build for summer delivery. His first 911. I've talked him through it but he does not believe everything I advise him so we agreed to put here and let the forum critique. https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRS1UNA2
Yikes, I had to check my monitor settings because I thought the Porsche site had gone monochrome! Perhaps just a teeny bit of colour?!
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Old 02-28-2024 | 01:07 PM
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Everyone on these threads recommends these stereo upgrades, which is fine if that's what you prefer. But the fact is that in every video review I have seen, sound tests (with the roof closed no less) indicate that at highway speed, this is an 80db car inside. And at that level, any stereo upgrade is going to be mostly drowned out, especially with regards to high fidelity music.

The seat really depends on your body type. The 18 way sport plus is a more articulated seat, more aggressive bolstering. It's fine if you are thin, but if you have any heft to your frame or have a broad back, its going to dig into you. The standard seat is better for that body type.

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Old 02-28-2024 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
Everyone on these threads recommends these stereo upgrades, which is fine if that's what you prefer. But the fact is that in every video review I have seen, sound tests (with the roof closed no less) indicate that at highway speed, this is an 80db car inside. And at that level, any stereo upgrade is going to be mostly drowned out, especially with regards to high fidelity music.
Anyone with this 'murdered out' of a build is either listening to death metal or straight up gangster rap, so I doubt fidelity is a concern.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 01:25 PM
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If it were me (having a black Targa myself.

1.) Go with Silver targa bar - brings out the wheel face and makes it less like a mono-chrome picture
2.) Locking Wheel bolts, you have 1 that is locking by standard - not sure why you would want all locking - as it is a pain.
3.) Odd doing the CF mirror triangles - you won't be able to see it on a black car TBH - kind of a waste to do CF on a dark black exterior - but if he likes CF, no problem.
4.) Rear Logo in High Gloss Black - skip and keep silver - will match wheels and targa bar (if you agree with point 1) - this is adding a bit more pop to a monochrome car.
5.)Same with model designation (though I prefer to opt for just the silver 911 rather than the full script which seems long when you see it live IMO).
6.) The Sports design Tail Pipes in Silver are really cool - kind of a 2 layer look black on the inner exhaust output and silver around it. - If you go with the silver stuff (targa bar, etc.) this is a really cool look and pulls out more color
7.) I agree with the breaks in HG black - I like that muted look without the red, and makes the wheels pop instead of the caliper. So I like that (even though I am suggesting less monochrome elsewhere).
8.) All else looks right to me... I also opted for PDCC and RAS for my targa, handles just like my 992 coupe did...
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Old 02-28-2024 | 02:39 PM
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Makes my heart happy to see so many others share my disdain for the murdered out sports car look. That's a style that should have died out 10 years ago and never should have started to begin with on Porsche sports cars IMO. SUVs and Dodge Chargers can keep that look.
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Old 02-28-2024 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
Everyone on these threads recommends these stereo upgrades, which is fine if that's what you prefer. But the fact is that in every video review I have seen, sound tests (with the roof closed no less) indicate that at highway speed, this is an 80db car inside. And at that level, any stereo upgrade is going to be mostly drowned out, especially with regards to high fidelity music.

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That is precisely why you need a Burmester-you can turn up the volume with little if any distortion.
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