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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian
Ouch... $35k... well a wee bit more than folks initially thought (well some anyway).

I hope to get my car shipped back after 3 months and two weeks ... Friday. I'll leave it at that. The good thing is I didn't put any miles on the winter tires

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Well, at least its not totaled and its something that can be easily repaired. Ofcourse its a big sum of money but it is what it is, it was at least a cheap lesson that couldve been way worse for me or the car.

Im happy for you getting your car back. Drive safe!
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 09:01 PM
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Drive safe!


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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:41 AM
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When I signed up with my insurance back than, they said that statistically, a turbo last's some 90 days before totaled. That was quite a few years ago. Don't know if that's still true today.
But going 80mph on wet soaked roads shows very little respect for the elements and the technical understanding what very wide tires will do.
Thank god nobody got hurt.
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:47 AM
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Great to hear that you've got a speedy repair on deck. Now that you've got a proper depreciation event out of the way, you should take advantage of that and truly enjoy the car going forward!
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 10:36 AM
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Golden Gate Region PCA just held a DE weekend to train instructors... in torrential downpour. Drivers were driving the wet line and they/we were GETTING ON IT. No accidents/damage to the entire crew over the 2 days. The biggest concern everyone had was going off track (into the mud) as it could likely bury/flip your car. These cars can be driven at pace under control in extreme conditions.

+1 on drivers education. Join PCA and do DE...

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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by L76
Golden Gate Region PCA just held a DE weekend to train instructors... in torrential downpour. Drivers were driving the wet line and they/we were GETTING ON IT. No accidents/damage to the entire crew over the 2 days. The biggest concern everyone had was going off track (into the mud) as it could likely bury/flip your car. These cars can be driven at pace under control in extreme conditions.

+1 on drivers education. Join PCA and do DE...

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I agree entirely with your suggestion on getting more education... however, when the car hits a deep puddle of water at 80 mph and the rubber no longer makes any contact with the road because you are hydroplaning, no amount of training is helping you as the car is not responding to any input. Driving on a track in rain without large areas of pooled water is very different than a public highway with questionable drainage and spots where you potentially have several inches of water pooled. I've driven many days in rain on the track and it is very different than driving in rain on the highways where I live. Like I said, when all 4 tires are no longer in physical contact with the asphalt, there is nothing any training will do to save you.
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 05:44 PM
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Other than slowing down and driving according to weather/road conditions you're right. Still a good driver education is never a bad thing.

VW/Audi's Arctic Test Center took us on an ice driving course several years ago and it was an eye opener. The site near Ft. Greely is used to train tank crews and they have this huge concrete area that they condition with a good 4 inches of ice. So I'm driving a VW Golf down the pad and the instructor asks me "So you're from Hawaii, how'd you end up here?", as I was about to answer he pulls the handbrake, the car immediately starts doing 360s...6 million thoughts race through your mind, it wasn't supposed to happen...I was doing 45mph, down a straight area... One of the best training I received.

Slow down, be aware of your surroundings and expect the unexpected.

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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gthal
I agree entirely with your suggestion on getting more education... however, when the car hits a deep puddle of water at 80 mph and the rubber no longer makes any contact with the road because you are hydroplaning, no amount of training is helping you as the car is not responding to any input. Driving on a track in rain without large areas of pooled water is very different than a public highway with questionable drainage and spots where you potentially have several inches of water pooled. I've driven many days in rain on the track and it is very different than driving in rain on the highways where I live. Like I said, when all 4 tires are no longer in physical contact with the asphalt, there is nothing any training will do to save you.
I agree with you but to be honest its not possible to train for every single life threatening scenario. I knew i wasnt supposed to be speeding in these conditions but i still did and once i slowed down it was too late i already hit the standing water and was nowhere near of getting the car back in control. Its not like i track drive the car or take it anywhere near its limits and i dont think i ever will but again i agree training wont hurt. That night i knew i shouldnt be driving as im really scared of downpours and raining while driving in general is something i tend to avoid. It was a combination of bad descisions that lead to the accident, maybe some luck too but i take full responsibility. It never crossed my mind about hydroplaning in a car with 500HP and wide summer tyres with no tread depth this is kinda new to me and im glad im being educated on the matter.
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EckFe1
When I signed up with my insurance back than, they said that statistically, a turbo last's some 90 days before totaled. That was quite a few years ago. Don't know if that's still true today.
But going 80mph on wet soaked roads shows very little respect for the elements and the technical understanding what very wide tires will do.
Thank god nobody got hurt.
How's that, a typical 911 turbo is totaled 90 days into ownership? No one would write insurance on it if that were true. Performance cars that are wrecked the most are used late model muscle cars. Mustangs, Challengers, Camaros etc - because their owners are younger "hotshot" men who can afford them as used cars, and have a higher propensity to wreck them. A friend of mine is selling his Charger SRT for that reason.
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