New 992.2? Maybe..,

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12-11-2023 | 07:08 PM

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3rdpedal

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This writeup indicates the 992.2 base will have more HP than the S.

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12-11-2023 | 07:50 PM

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This writeup indicates the 992.2 base will have more HP than the S.

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It also indicates that all 911s are AWD

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12-12-2023 | 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal

This writeup indicates the 992.2 base will have more HP than the S.

K.

I noticed same but thought maybe I was missing osmehting and didnt want to get jumped on!

Heres my speculation, since folks have said for some time (and article) that as currently configured, transmission/battery dont work with Manual, maybe Porsche next pricing party trick is to have the S be non-hybrid but keeps option for Manual with an easy HP bump via ecu mapping.

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12-12-2023 | 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Schn3ll

And manuals require a second set of crash tests (separate from PDK) at least in the US.

Porsche cars aren't crash tested in North America (early Boxters have some results pre 2013) and the only tests in Europe I can find are for Cayenne, Macan and Taycan (Euro NCAP). So, I wonder if having to crash test a manual transmission car would figure into the equation?

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12-14-2023 | 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WCE

A lot of this is contrary to other rumors, so here's my guess: ALL 992.2's get the mild hybrid electric motor integrated into the transmission (PDK and manual).
This gives them a significant power and slight economy boost throughout the line so even the base model owners will want to trade up!
The separate front motor (which sounds like the corvette e-ray hybrid) will be a new model released later so early 992.2 buyers will want to trade up again!
Remember Porsche is primarily a marketing machine

Yes, this is exactly what I think will actually happen. Next year in the Spring 2024, Porsche will announce the refreshed 992.2 line-up and all of them will have a light 48V mild hybrid system. The mild hybrid system won't really be talked about that much, if at all and will mostly just be a footnote in the specs sheet. It won't add much power or weight (maybe 50lbs to 100lbs) to the cars but will improve fuel economy by about 15%. Most 911 owners won't even know they have it on their cars (similar to most current BMW, Mercedes, etc... owners that have mild systems on their cars).

Later on, say 2026 or 2027 even? They will announce the 994.1 (or whatever they call it) with the high voltage full hybrid (the performance hybrid that Frank-Steffen Walliser and Frank Moser have been talking about for the last few years) on select variants (I think the rumor mill was saying the S model and up?). The base 911 and probably the T would still just have the mild hybrid system. The full hybrid system will add good amount of power and torque in particular (maybe 150hp and 200lb*ft), but will add more like 150lbs to 250lbs to the cars.

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12-14-2023 | 03:32 PM

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I’m in SoCal a few times per year and was in Monterey in August for Carweek including Werks Reunion show and did not see the 918 anywhere.

I actually have seen more LaFerraris than the 918.

You won't see them very often just cruising the streets but if you go to Cars and Coffee type events they're pretty common.

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