malba2366

It may very well be that the Manuals will be gone in all but the GT cars. Porsche executives have said a few times that the US is the only market where there is a significant take rate on the manuals outside GT of cars.

johnohara

I think this whole initial speculation is massively fabricated.

Regen brakes, unlikely
3.6 motor, unlikely
Front drive motor, unlikely
only 25kg ... super unlikely


just guesses ... I doubt they are correct

Drifting

I think like all other porsche go fast tech the first 911s to go hybrid will be the halo models.

992.2 911 Hybrid models —

GT2RS- definitely
911 Turbo- likely
GT3RS- possibly
Carrera models - No

994.1 911 Hybrid models-
All of the above 911 plus GTS, and possibly S. Likely have to be AWD to get hybrid.

R N M

Show me a properly working 918.
I see Carrera GTs all the time actually driving to events. Can’t remember last time i saw 918, not even during Car Week this year. The batteries are a huge issue on the 918s and nobody can work on them.

ipse dixit

You need to get out more my friend.

3uros

Not sure about NY but I definitely see them here in Southern California.....can't say it's all the time but I definitely see them.

HappinessProcured

Seems like a lot of changes for a mid-model refresh

Schn3ll

.2 is when powertrains are always updated on 911’s. If there is a time to do it, it’s now.

tmslc

there are a lot of them around. this one was getting something minor repaired i believe but getting parts for them is a few week lead time. absolutely stunning in person.

Fullyield

But the first year of production for Porsche usually needs some “sorting out” ala D chunk, IMS bearing, bore scoring, etc. It took Porsche years to correct these water cooled engine issues and finally had to redesign the engine to do it. Surprised to see that thrown out as an example.

ipse dixit

LIke I said above, hybrid tech is not new tech for PAG.

Aside from applications in the 918 and GT3 R, the Panamera and Cayenne all have hybrid drivetrains for at least 1 generation now.

Fullyield

No argument there. But it is new tech in the 911 with new drivetrain, weight and chassis. Just commenting that your air cooled to water cooled engine switch probably not the best example to demonstrate your point as it was fraught with major problems...some catastrophic. .....Lithium battery roll out for Cayenne went fairly smooth compared to lithium battery roll out in 911 being so problematic that PAG abandoned the technology and returned to AGM batteries for 2024. . Hope hybrid 911 works well, BUT I just don't think it will be all unicorns, rainbows and butterflies as some seem to suggest. I hope I am wrong. But, the first year of a new drivetrain with new technology in a new chassis is usually problematic for all manufacturers, not just Porsche. I will test drive the 992.2 but most likely wait to the second or third year of production to make any decision to let everyone else work out the bugs....or be the "beta testers" as drcollie suggests.

R N M

I’m in SoCal a few times per year and was in Monterey in August for Carweek including Werks Reunion show and did not see the 918 anywhere.

I actually have seen more LaFerraris than the 918.

Ikone

Agree with this.

Some not so well known facts: Porsche's first vehicle was electric (1898) and they made a hybrid in 1900.

3uros

Fair enough, however, I have seen a Carmine Red 918 this year on PCH in Orange County back in August. To be fair, I don't see them all the time but here and there I do see them (chances are slim since there are 918 in the whole world). I recall seeing a black one driving down the 405 past LAX a few years back (I think it was Lebron but I couldn't get a clear view of the driver's face). Same goes for any ultra exotic like the Veyron or LaFerrari.