ZaphodPrefect

Hello Experts!

I am coming off of a 991.1 C2S that I sold before a move and I'm looking to get back into a 911. I found a good deal on a local single owner, well optioned (Chrono, Sports Exhaust) 992 Base. My last 2 cars after the 911 were a C8 Corvette (495hp) and a F-Type R (550hp). I track 200 hp motorcycles so I am a bit of power junky. I am worried I won't be happy with the sub 400hp of the base. I was wondering if it's worth it to get 992 Base and then upgrade the turbos/intercooler/tune or whatever to get more power but still with good reliability. This car will see a track so are there other compromises with the base that might make this a bad idea?

Thanks!

breny4104

You can upgrade your Turbos and other things with M Engineering and get large HP and torque gains. There may be other options as well from other vendors. Of course you warranty will be shot if you crater the motor or brick the car.

Ray K.

Try a tune first and then upgrade hardware later if it's not enough

Jaye Bass

I have an APR tune. Turns it into a different car. Beware of bros with a laptop.

shrimp money

Shots fired

ZaphodPrefect

Thanks for the replies. I understand there are tunes and endless amounts of upgrades that can be done. I guess I am wondering, based on experience, if it's worth it or if power is a concern spend the extra for the S or GT*?

Flat6Motorsports

We have a ton of experience with these including our own in-house dev car. Feel free to check out our YouTube channel for some insight. Here's a link to our power kits below. We're always happy to help answer any questions, feel free to reach out to us. Ask for Michael, he came from the motorcycle racing world!
https://flat6motorsports.com/pages/9...-6-motorsports

John Mclane

Try driving the car first, I went from a 991 C2S to a 991.2 base and it was surprising how quicker the car was.
Bear in mind that big gains with turbo tuning would require fiddling with the suspension and mostly brakes, depending on how and where you drive. If you track, most certainly if riding at 9/10. For regular shenanigans, probably fine.
As mentioned above, warranty for the engine and anything related to it is easily voided if they can blame it on a tune (no need to prove anything).

ZaphodPrefect

This 992 Base I am looking at is optioned with the S wheels. So I think the only other difference besides the turbos and tune would be the 4 piston brakes up front. Anyone have any thoughts on the 4 piston vs 6 piston brakes? My guess is they are fine for the street and won't cut it at the track.

Flat6Motorsports

The base brakes are pretty solid but a 4 piston (330mm) vs 6 piston (350mm) on the S. The S also gets a LSD along with the larger turbochargers.

remington

Plenty of power to be had from the base with fairly simple tune and no hardware. See flat6motorsports above. Keep in mind the stock 992 base is as fast as a 996 turbo, not a car that people complain about being slow.

zambien

There is a ton of info out there but to summarize, the base 992 is a great entry point. As others have mentioned, the S and GTS get bigger turbos, an LSD, better brakes, and some suspension differences. Having said all of that, if you've never driven a 992 before it's likely you will be amazed by the C2 (base). Depending on your horsepower experience it may feel like a rocket ship, or it may just feel quick.

As the Flat Six folks pointed out, you can build a stupid-fast 992 C2 and it's a great bang for the buck. Tires will be the limiting factor if you tune but the rear engine sitting over the tires still gives you more and better grip than many RWD LSD cars. That problem can be solved with stickier tires than OEM (Cup 2's for example). You can build a base 992 up to faster than stock GTS speeds for a lot less money than an S or GTS and the power limitations are virtually the same across all Carreras once you start upgrading. Motor and transmission are the same. T, S and GTS are great cars but the C2 is no slouch and is the best tuner bang-for-the-buck unless you can get a steal on a higher mileage older S (due to the larger turbos). If you haven't already you should read through the Flat Six Carrera build thread.

Flat6Motorsports

New video we just posted (thought I'd share):

Jaye Bass

I would like to have the limited slip and rear axle steering. I took a base car two years ago cause S allocations were ADM.

meyecul

Should you get it, definitely spend some time with the car before jumping into any power upgrades. The listed spec numbers on paper and the actual driving experience are not one in the same (the base/T probably has the most spread amongst 992 trims when looking at spec vs. reality). That said, you have some good HP history so as others have mentioned Flat Six has some great data on upgrading.