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Exactly. I am guessing the OP is in Canada, where ADM are illegal in most provinces but where we now have that new federal luxury tax for cars over 100k CAD.
Doing quick math tells me the luxury tax would be ~16,100CAD, meaning the “dealer options” add up to ~11,200CAD:
3,999 Ceramic coating and stone guard
2,850 Destination charge
2,750 Max dealer fee
100 A/C tax
35 Tire recycling tax
1,450 mats, charger, etc…
Originally Posted by CanAutM3
Do the math, we are saying the exact same thing.
The luxury tax also applies to any “improvements” made to the car such as PPF or ceramic coating.
Yes, but your above statement is not correct. The luxury tax on this vehicle would not be $ 16 100.
Yes, but your above statement is not correct. The luxury tax on this vehicle would not be $ 16 100.
That is how I did the math:
169,240 MSRP including factory options
+11,188 Dealer added options and fees
180,428 Total purchase price
+16,085 Luxury tax (20% of 80,428)
196,513 Off the lot price before HST
ADM is not illegal in Canada…it just has to be disclosed in any advertising. So tired of people posting this! Check with OMVIC if you don’t believe me.
The application varies province to province. In Québec for instance, dealers are not allowed to sell above what manufacturers specify on their websites.
169,240 MSRP including factory options
+11,188 Dealer added options and fees
180,428 Total purchase price
+16,085 Luxury tax (20% of 80,428)
196,513 Off the lot price before HST
$11K + tax for front PPF and ceramic which will cost a max of $3k in the GTA. I guess if you want to pay $10k over list...
Read what I posted earlier. Dealer is charging $4k for the ceramic and stone guard. The rest of the charges are freight & PDI, dealer fees, various taxes (all of which are clearly listed on the Porsche.ca website) plus some dealer options (protection packages, winter floor mats, trickle charger, etc).
There is no ADM in those dealer options. $19,600 of the $23,234 is frt, pdi, luxury tax, tire tax, ac tax. The $3k is bs add-ons like winter mats and the protection plans listed. The car price is only about $11k above the base MSRP of $158,500, so I assume that it is lightly optioned.
actually, $169 240 is the MSRP sale price (pre tax) after adding on all the MSRP porsche options for C4 coupe. So PFAFF is actually charging close to 30K more on top of MSRP pricing + MSRP options.
actually, $169 240 is the MSRP sale price (pre tax) after adding on all the MSRP porsche options for C4 coupe. So PFAFF is actually charging close to 30K more on top of MSRP pricing + MSRP options.
Have you even bothered reading the responses in your own thread?
Price is still lower in Canada than in the US - even with a 10% luxury tax (capped at $20k, I believe). I believe Canada has the lowest luxury car prices in the world!
no no no, left wing government wont cap a tax… it’s far from fact, 10% on cars worth more than 200k, no cap
actually, $169 240 is the MSRP sale price (pre tax) after adding on all the MSRP porsche options for C4 coupe. So PFAFF is actually charging close to 30K more on top of MSRP pricing + MSRP options.
Just refuse the added options and sign the papers.
a bit of update. Hopefully this information will help other 911 shoppers out there in GTA.
I went to porsche north toronto location and get a quote for C4S with the exact options I wanted. I also asked pfaff porsche markham to give me a quote for the same C4S with the exact options I want. Both cars are the same with same options.
Final pricing after everything (i.e. taxes, delivery, dealer fee etc..) is $7674less at porsche north toronto location compare to at pfaff porsche markham. So I went ahead and put down $5000 deposit at porsche north toronto location. Porsche north toronto deposit is fully refundable back to credit card before taking allocation. (see screen shot for difference)
My friend who recently paid a deposit for Porsche Macan at Porsche downtown town location and they won't credit back his deposit before allocation into his credit card after he decide not to buy a new car due to financial reason, they can only convert his deposit to store credit to use in the future, so I did not bother to talk to porsche downtown.
Porsche PFAFF markahm
pfaff porsche north toronto
Last edited by Smoothoperator; 11-21-2023 at 01:32 PM.
If I were buying a car in Canada, I would ask that any extras I have agreed to purchase be on a separate transaction, eh? i.e. PPF, ceramic coating, etc., etc. be paid separately to avoid the additional luxury tax.
11-20-2023, 11:10 AM
