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Old 08-19-2023, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
How are these 2 cars priced the same? Given the mileage differences.

That said, what was the MSRP of these two cars?

Either of these cars would be a fine purchase if and only if priced appropriately.
CAD$167k for the white one and $172k for the other. Incredibly the used price is the same (incredibly to me as I’m used to cars heavily depreciating!).
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I know about that. I'm not sure if I knew about it when I ordered, but I would not have spent the $16,500 on the interior - price at the time for the EM Two Tone special upgrade - (or about $10k more since my interior included as many do the full leather at $4,500, the 930 leather at $1000, and the crests on headrests at $300 or so). So the price is less than it seems if you factor in what you have already selected.

If I went back and could do it again or got a new one and sold mine, I don't know that I would opt for it, as there are a couple other options that are at the top of my list. But in a money is absolutely no object/no budget world, sure.
On point and agree with all that. I still panic at the cost for that interior - yet every dream build at 2am, seems to have it in there. 😂
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Thanks for the responses. One of the two sold, but found a 2021 model 4S with light colored interior, Sports Chrono/Exhaust and a few other features. Dealer (not porcshe) says warranty is until April 2025. But looking at the Carfax report, it hasn't been serviced since Sept 2022 and a few times at the Dodge Chrysler dealer where the person traded it in for a Jeep Rubicon.

Is it easy to tell if there are required maintenance missing whereby Porsche could deny to cover it under warranty?


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There would not be any reason to have it serviced since Sept 2022. Services are once a year or every 10000 miles.
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Originally Posted by pbcsd
Thanks for the responses. One of the two sold, but found a 2021 model 4S with light colored interior, Sports Chrono/Exhaust and a few other features. Dealer (not porcshe) says warranty is until April 2025. But looking at the Carfax report, it hasn't been serviced since Sept 2022 and a few times at the Dodge Chrysler dealer where the person traded it in for a Jeep Rubicon.

Is it easy to tell if there are required maintenance missing whereby Porsche could deny to cover it under warranty?

That MY with that mileage, "by the book" Porsche maintenance would be a one-year Minor Service (which is an oil change and some inspections) and a two-year intermediate service which is all that's included in the Minor Service plus a brake fluid change. I'd guess that the Pfaff service in March 2022 was the one-year Minor Service but it appears the two-year Intermediate Service which was due in March 2023 has not been completed.
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That MY with that mileage, "by the book" Porsche maintenance would be a one-year Minor Service (which is an oil change and some inspections) and a two-year intermediate service which is all that's included in the Minor Service plus a brake fluid change. I'd guess that the Pfaff service in March 2022 was the one-year Minor Service but it appears the two-year Intermediate Service which was due in March 2023 has not been completed.
Thanks. Is that something Porsche would decline warranty over? Will check with the dealer, seems the Porsche was traded in to the Chrysler dealer just before that service was required.
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Thanks. Is that something Porsche would decline warranty over? Will check with the dealer, seems the Porsche was traded in to the Chrysler dealer just before that service was required.
They can't decline warranty because service wasn't performed at Porsche. In any case, this isn't the place to ask these questions. Pick a local dealer, take the car there for a PPI, and ask all those questions at that time. If the Chrysler dealer doesn't allow you to do a PPI, I'd walk.

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Okay, going to check with a friend at Porsche as well (works in parts). The price on this 2021 seems a bit too good to be true (~CAD$35k under it's current spec'd price for the 2023 version, and about $15-20k less than comparably spec'd 2021 models from Porsche dealers). So something seems odd to me. Especially since it's been sitting for 6 months, though there do appear to be a ton of 911's in the 991-992 range on the market here.

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Well, joining the 911 club later this week (a long time dream of mine which was "wetted" a couple months ago when I was in Stuttgart and went to the 911 factory!). . Negotiated a deal on the 3,000km white Porsche. It will actually come with the Porsche winter setup (Same gloss black painted rims + winter tires, C$10k option). Car was virtually brand new, only option it didn't come with was the sport exhaust, so looking at the Cargraphic valve thing.

Dealer also sold me a 2 year extended warranty which is via Porsche (some sort of agreement they have in place).which gives me some piece of mind.

Now to look into how to protect chalk seats from dye transfer!
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