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Old 07-27-2023 | 03:39 AM
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Hello folks. 992 GTS Cab here. Owned for about 7 months, have about 2200 miles on it.

Noticed today wrinkles in a back seat on the seating surface. No cargo or anything goes back there. My kids butts when I drive them to school. seems unusual and i plan to ask the dealer about it. Anyone have similar experience?

A little hard to get a good pic. I have tried with and without flash. You may have to zoom in to see.

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Old 07-27-2023 | 08:29 AM
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you should be driving it more.
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Old 07-27-2023 | 08:33 AM
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A few of us have the same type of leather wrinkles on our door panels (I have them on one side of my 2022 targa). Which looks the same as the ones on your seat. I believe these are in the leather, not caused by sitting (if I am seeing them correctly). I think a few people have taken it in to the dealer for comment/warranty, etc.

Mine does not bother me, as some of my previous 911s had similar wrinkles. IIRC, Dr. Collie or someone with expertise in leather mentioned it was the quality of leather, etc. that they use or something like that causes this.
Old 07-27-2023 | 10:26 AM
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Based on the average of the 992 driver, don't most of us have wrinkles in our seat?

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Old 07-27-2023 | 10:32 AM
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@drcollie says this is normal
Old 07-27-2023 | 11:42 AM
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Normal.

It's leather.

A natural material.

It will show imperfections.

If you want perfect, get racetex.
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Old 07-27-2023 | 12:50 PM
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FYI; these are not wrinkles but stretch marks from the cow. Premium hides on higher end cars get these cut out at the upholsterer.
A natural occurrence on most cow hides.
Old 07-27-2023 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cwbrown
FYI; these are not wrinkles but stretch marks from the cow. Premium hides on higher end cars get these cut out at the upholsterer.
A natural occurrence on most cow hides.
Maybe they should use cows that haven't given birth yet?
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Old 07-27-2023 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cwbrown
FYI; these are not wrinkles but stretch marks from the cow. Premium hides on higher end cars get these cut out at the upholsterer.
A natural occurrence on most cow hides.
I thought higher end leather is more natural and they don’t cut or sand these lines down? If anything they just use cows with less abrasions or injury to their skin.
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Leather is an animal skin. All animal skins have imperfections (including yours!). We have a saying in the leather business, "Buy vinyl if you don't want flaws"

I love me some wrinkles and healed scars in leather. Shows I have the real deal, not some over-processed, cheez-wizzed, sanitized, painted and embossed garbage coming off low grade hides that have been milled to look like they never belonged on a cow.

Look at this chair I have in my store, this is the world's finest leather that comes from a fresh-water tannery in Northern Italy, the only one of its kind (imported by Moore & Giles out of Virginia). Look carefully and you will see fat wrinkles on the arms and healed scars and tiny bug bites in the hide. This is real leather and so expensive you will never see it in a car interior.

Embrace the imperfections.






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Old 07-27-2023 | 04:37 PM
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Rolls Royce ensures this doesn't show up in their cars by only using bulls that live on pastures with no wire fences and can't get pregnant thus causing stretch marks. https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com...t-leather.html
Porsche is not Rolls Royce.
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Originally Posted by rasetsu
Rolls Royce ensures this doesn't show up in their cars by only using bulls that live on pastures with no wire fences and can't get pregnant thus causing stretch marks. https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com...t-leather.html
Porsche is not Rolls Royce.
Well, not really. No one uses bull hides, they are unsuitable. The best hides are Grade A Steer hides, which is a male cow that has been castrated. Female cowhides are less desirable because their hormones mean the skin is stretchy, to accommodate birth, so its far less costly from a tannery and used in lower grade products. Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Bentley, etc., use high grade Semi-Aniline hides, but they are still nowhere in the league of the leather I posted on that chair photo. Why? The simple fact of the matter is you cannot (or perhaps more correctly Should Not) use a pure aniline in a vehicle interior, It would fade so badly in a few years the clients would have a fit. And it stains. So you go as high as semi-anilines for car interiors - but they are not top of the line. Granted, its a very NICE Semi-Aniline, but its still a corrected hide.

Porsche used plain ole Finished leather in their interiors, though they use a semi-Aniline in the extra cost Club leather.

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Old 07-27-2023 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBird
Maybe they should use cows that haven't given birth yet?
New business opportunity - Wagu seat leather (hand-massaged hides only)?
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Well, not really. No one uses bull hides, they are unsuitable. The best hides are Grade A Steer hides, which is a male cow that has been castrated. Female cowhides are less desirable because their hormones mean the skin is stretchy, to accommodate birth, so its far less costly from a tannery and used in lower grade products. Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Bentley, etc., use high grade Semi-Aniline hides, but they are still nowhere in the league of the leather I posted on that chair photo. Why? The simple fact of the matter is you cannot (or perhaps more correctly Should Not) use a pure aniline in a vehicle interior, It would fade so badly in a few years the clients would have a fit. And it stains. So you go as high as semi-anilines for car interiors - but they are not top of the line. Granted, its a very NICE Semi-Aniline, but its still a corrected hide.

Porsche used plain ole Finished leather in their interiors, though they use a semi-Aniline in the extra cost Club leather.
"bull" is the term used in the link. "We have worked alongside our trusted farmers for nearly two decades, raising bulls in impeccable conditions with the utmost care for their wellbeing." I'm just pulling from there. Tell Rolls Royce to correct it.
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Look at this chair I have in my store, this is the world's finest leather that comes from a fresh-water tannery in Northern Italy, the only one of its kind (imported by Moore & Giles out of Virginia). Look carefully and you will see fat wrinkles on the arms and healed scars and tiny bug bites in the hide. This is real leather and so expensive you will never see it in a car interior.
Enquiring minds want to know how much... :-)


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